What, acording to you made DA so special?
When I first started to watch DA, it was cuz Jes was hot, and it was sci-fi... But now I bought it on DVD cuz' no other show actually has characters you care about... I've never ever cared about what happens to the characters, as long as there'll be a carchase, shootout or joke sometime soon. I've never felt sorry for any characters... until I saw DA. I really want it to work out for Max and Logan... You see, I'm a toughguy... I never cry, but for example when Max tries to leave Seattle in "she aint heavy", I actually shead a few tears....
Another reason DA is so special to me is the subliminal message, about discrimination and equality. The transgenics are sort of a futuristic version of the blacks during the 19th century!

well, i remind a cold day in december 2001, i was walking along a road here in germany, where i saw these two or three different huge posters with red background hanging on the tram stations with this beautiful dark-haired woman (one was with the subtitle "Transgeno killer" i remember) and i immediately knew, i gotta watch this show, so jessica was the main reason at the beginning, i didn't know her before from flipper or something else before

as i kept watching DA it was everything, the characters, the action, the story, which kept me watching it till it ended ( ), quite difficult to say what the main point was

I rememer that i got the game long before i saw DA on tv.
I didn't like the game too much, bud the show.....
Now that was something else!
I cant place my finger on what it was that made the series so special.
I guess it was new and fresh, it was something I've never seen before.

because i was doing my homework and i saw art attack on sky one i was like wow thats so kool and bought the dvd's not long after . i agree with the whole character thing because you do care about them, i think original cindy has got kinda a thing for max lmao ... but ne way i like it to see a girl like that with a kick ass attitude

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these were the posters hangin' almost everywhere before DA started in Germany

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kool i cant remember seeing any postetrs in the uk i just seen that 1 episode and then i went 2 hmv and seein the first season so i bought it and like it ever since has there ever been any dark angel comics ?

I never cared much for the fighting part (guess I'm too jaded on that sort of thing) or for the storyline (too predictable.)

What made Dark Angel interesting to me was Jessica Alba's performance of Max and her character interaction with the other characters. Max has this great sparkling chemistry with everyone : Logan, Alec, Cindy, Normal. Max's dialogue with even a peripheral character like Bruno was absolutely hilarious and believable at the same time. I'd like to have a friend/GF like Max in real life

Generally, I'm a Max fan. Jessica, I haven't seen much of her in other roles to call myself a fan of hers. (Her only other roles I've seen are in "Honey" and "Alex Mac")

Oh Alec made this so special for me and Zach

But besides the pretty boys I loved the fighting scenes and the concept behind the show, the ideology and meaning about how people are afraid of things they don't understand

true i love zack

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I guess Max made it more attractive for me, but what really got me going is the fact that it is so close to real life issues, the discriminatory reaction and fanatical religious reactions to things that are different that is all too present in the world today, as well as the whole Eyes Only concept.

The character chemestry (all of them) was pretty good in my opinion also.

I first started watching the show, because the storyline interested me and I liked the characters (with the exception of Logan) in the show, but it wasn't until season 2 and the arrival of Alec that the show became special to me.

I ended up watching the show back to front second season on tv before making an effort to buy the dvds, so I was really impressed when I watched season one. The gripping twists and turns, the tragedy of it all just left me in awe.

The specialness of the show can be summed up in one sentance.
Zack's final line from AJBAC.


It had heart Chrisisall

indeed ... shame he wasn't in the second series much to help her with the familiars ...

As much as I like Alec, I think there could have been room for more Zack...DA's second season (series to those across the Pond) was just a little too black and white; Lydecker and Zack had interesting grey areas (someone's gonna say Alec is one big grey area, but that's not the case. He's a sheep in wolf's clothing.)
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Lefty Humanist Chrisisall

Alec is one big grey area. Well, he is! And I think he's more a wolf in a sheep clothing than the other way around.

But I agree that there could have been more room for Zack. And Lydecker

I don't know what made it special for me. I do know that it had a few lines and scenes that just left their impression, and I even got to use one of Zack's lines in real life, so I guess that was special...

Also the casting; look at the new Battlestar Galactica (a good show IMO), the actors are, with the exception of Olmos and Hatch, kind of ...well, ordinary. Not that they're bad, just serviceable (again, IMO).
The cast of Dark Angel was stellar, and so likeable (similar in some ways to Firefly, and the original Star Trek).

Cameron has a way with that.


Analyzing Chrisisall

Chrisisall:
Exactly. Lydecker and Zack were far more interesting than their counterparts in the second season (Max too). Like in The Lord of the Rings (the only example I can think of now :P), the most interesting character is Boromir, he is the only character who steps over to the "dark side," and shows a bit of humanity. All the other characters are very flat, either incredibly good or inherently evil. He is what reminds us most of ourselves, and not reminds us of "what we want to be" or whatever. Zack kills an innocent, and yet he is a "good guy". And the opposite for Lydecker. They are both closer to home than White and Alec (and of course more interesting from a technical viewpoint).

Assumptions++, but whatever. I call Film Theorist, I'm allowed to make those. :P

Yeah, the first season was pitch-perfect drama, with action. The second stepped down to mostly action-adventure, with some drama (but GOOD action-adventure).


Logan-like Chrisisall

I'm glad there are people out there who appreciate both seasons for what they were.
(I know some workmates that enjoyed the first season, but lost interest in the second as soon as the nomolies appeared. )

You know my favourite characters after Alec where Joshua, Mole, Dix, Luke and some of the other transhumans and nomolies. I just wish they had been introduced earlier in the season instead of crap episodes like Boo.

I actually loved "Harbor Lights". And most of "Borrowed Time".
Am I a minority?


Eyes Only Chrisisall

Well, for me it was a girl who could kick alot of butts

Hell, you can get that from Buffy ( just got The Chosen Collection, ha ha), Nikita, Alias, etc.
DA had a special chemistry between the actors, and an enduring romance at the heart of the show.
For instance, if they'd killed off Logan, or if he'd had an affair with Asha that destroyed his relationship with Max, the show would be dead to me.
Jessica was at a really innocent part of her life, and lent that to her character, and also the love between Max and Logan was made all the more palpable due to the real-life relationship between Wetherly and Alba. The timing was incredible; it doesn't happen very often. And we got to see it.
And the supporting cast was eclectic and spot-on.
I'd better stop before I write a book.


Sickening romantic Chrisisall

yes i agree with your last comments Chrisisall, what you said about the characters was one of the aspects that made it such a uniquely good show, not just another "lets kick the bad guys" type of show.

there were also other key reasons why it was so good of course, but if i start talking about those, i would probably be on here for hours.

but i liked season 2 as much as season 1, even though they were different, and the writers said the second season was deliberately made with a lighter tone and feel but it still had lots of tradegy as well as humour.

Fox is running a poll right now about what tv series to bring back and DA is one of them, www.foxtvdvd.co.uk is the website, registr and vote, try more than once, TELL EVERYONE

Season 2 did have a lot more tragedy. But I prefered season 1, it had more of a meaning, to me atleast. I loved seeing the flashbacks when they were kids. I think that's what made it really special, having the feelings of when they were kids, how it affected them once they're older. Also how it seemed so real, the question, when will this happen. It's truly a one of a kind show. Also I love the girl kicking all the butt. The portrayel of Max, being sexy, tough and soft hearted.

For me, and I hope you too- the weird inter psychological relationship between Lydecker and all of the escaped Manticore X5s.
For one, they knew how he would behave, and he tried to outguess them by using the training they'd had to predict their behaviour.
And secondly, that weird "fatherly" relationship he had, that kind of caring yet cruel nature.
You never quite knew what was going on, but when Renfro stepped in, that "fatherly" side came out and brought about a great season finale.

When I saw the first episode, I really like the story, the characters and the originality of the story...

In fact I saw all the episodes from the season 1 and 2 in one month (in DVD)...

According to me, the originality of the story and the impossible relationnship between max and logan made DA so special and so captivating...There is 3 things that everybody like (I think) : action, sci-fi and love....

Dark Angel, was everything you could want in TV, in one package: great stories, good looking actors, action, drama, romance and just enough fun.

It's special, because there was no show like it. Trying to find peace, love, harmony, and where you fit in, in a broken world. That's what we all try to do every day right? We're all just here for some reason, and we're trying to make it work. Anyone could find someway to relate to Dark Angel. It's universal.

I've only seen about half of season 2 at this stage. I really wish I'd seen this show before - it's great. And I really want to get Season 1 (just bought S2 on DVD).
Totally missed it on TV, think I surfed through an ep once - I vaguely recall seeing Joshua before. But I think it was on pretty late and at that time I was mum to a toddler and a baby - sleep was a much higher priority than TV.
Why did I go looking for it? Heard about it from Ackles fans, saw small clips from it online. Read as much as I could about it. Sounded like a great concept. Looked like a great show.
From what I've seen so far, I sure didn't waste my money! And as soon as I can find S1 and have the $$ to spare, it'll be joining by DVD collection. And I don't buy many, so that's pretty high praise.

What made Dark Angel so special for me? I can't say it was Jessica Alba or Michael Weatherly. I remembered the commerical from a long time ago when they show flash of a military type setting( the young X5s were training) I have also liked tv shows/ or movies that deal with storylines that with genetically enhanced persons. "Chameleon" movies are a great example. Like in 2001, I was like 16? maybe. So, kickass female was the perfect thing I wanted to see. She had the attitude and everything. I wanted to be Max. I liked the relationships that the characters shared. Logan-Max, Max-Lydecker, Max-Original Cindy, Max-Against the World, Max-Manticore silbings and so on. I can't say I have seen another show since that has created such characters. The storylines weren't weak, epsiode to epsiode(in my opinion). All the characters played a part, none of them were just there. Lydecker was a major reason I watched Dark Angel. Because his conflict with the rogue X5s is great. He's obviously is torn between Manticore and his "children." I was always glad to see Max come in contact with the other X5s, who escaped with her. Tinga and Brin, I wished they had showed more of them. Alot made this special for me. I can't really put it on one specific thing.

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LOL at your username MontyCora. But I do agree with you, the relationships are still after, 5 years, still one of a kind. It was the grip that kept you coming back.

Dark Angel was special because it was the first show that i really liked about a ass kicking chick! and jessica was great in it. i cant imagine anyone better than jessica

I like Dark Angel, because it really has much sense. If you just watch it once, you maybe don't see it, but if you really listen and watch it weekly (or on DVD), you do see it. That Max and Logan are outsiders and they try to fill in a world which is completely broken. It has a lot to do with racism, black against white people... people who try to improve the world...
The scene I really liked most so far in season 2 (I've only seen 3 episodes by now) was when Max was talking to Joshua. She didn't see monster in him, she thought he was like a human, just different. And Alex, well he doesn't feel like Max. he is more "the soldier" without much emotion. Max is so different to her brothers and sisters. She's the only one who really cares about her emotions and not about orders.

Oh I've written too much again but there was so much spinning around in my head

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A big part of it was also the photography and music; they were movie-quality. And this hasn't been lost on the makers of Supernatural (and other shows), if you can make the viewers feel like they're watching movie, it's more of an event- every episode. I think Miami Vice was the first to really put that into play. But Dark Angel's lighting was also fantastic- it lent unusual texture to the scenes.

Not that I'm a fan or anything Chrisisall

the romance between max and logan

it was meant to be the first time she broke into his apartment

Yep, all of the above.

Hot gal Jessie [not a chick, no gal who can hand you your @$$ on a plate w/o breaking a sweat is ever a "chick!" ] in tight clothes: you just can't get enough of that, really. That was the teaser, that got me to watch the pilot. I'd seen Never Been Kissed when it was in the theater a year before DA came out, and remember seeing Jessica Alba & Leelee Sobieski in it & thinking "these two will go far, if not have downright HUGE careers!" Interestingly enough, I thought Leelee would be the bigger star of the two, funny how wrong I was on that call!

Most of you are too young to remember, but while shows with the fundamental premise of showcasing hot bodies have been around forever (& undoubtedly always will), they almost always featured blondes; DA was built around a brunette, & not only a smoking hot one, but one I already knew could act reasonably well! [Hey, she was young & didn't start as a child star: "reasonably well" was plenty good for some TV show...]

AND... the show was a dystopian sci-fi theme! Pretty rare treat, even if it never made it past the pilot: lots of possibilities here...

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! ...it was a James Cameron project! Hmm, this is looking hopeful!

Got the roommate to stop playing on his PS2 so we could try the show out [he was only willing to give me 15 minutes to check it out; after all, it'll be rerun later, right?]... and that was that. We were both hooked until the [abrupt] end of the second season, & extremely pissed at Fox for never even bothering to re-run it the following summer! [sigh]

I just recently got the two season set, and w/ the gf out of town for both of the last 2 weekends, was able to watch them all more or less back to back [season 1 one weekend, season 2 the next. The gf doesn't like sci-fi & gets very threatened by my watching smokin' hot starlets who make me drool so badly I can't hide it, so don't even bother going there about "why don't you watch with her?" ]

Watching these shows again after so many years has REALLY made me nostalgic: man I miss Y2K! Life [for me at least, not so much for Max] was soooo much better then! [SIGH]

Thanks for reading my words, hope you enjoyed it as much as I enjoy reading yours!