[mods' note: changed the title to allow discussion of all season's here]


In my opinion Season 1 stomped all over season 2. Season 1 had everything right, the show was unique and to the point. Everything made perfect sense and i feel that if season 2 was more like season 1 the show would have continued. I started watching the show like 2 months ago and i just finished it last night. I bought season 1 and thought it was like the best show ever, then right after, i ran out and bought season 2 in hopes that it would be anywhere near as good as season 1. To my surprise i found myself questiong just aboyut everything they did in season 2. Season 2 i think KILLED the show. Introducing the stupid enomilees(i'm not sure thats spelled right) was horrible. It was chaos, every single episode in season 2 they would have a new story line that ruined the reputation that seaon 1 had previously built up. I think the only parts i liked in season 2 was that they introduced Alec, and we got to see more of Max/Logan. The rest of the new characters in season 2 were horrible. Liedecker in season 1 was a WAY better bad guy than White. However, the guy who played White did an excellent job in the role. I just feel they shouldn't of introduced him into the series. Another thing i liked in season 2 was that Max did some SEXY things! I loved it when she flashed Normal and that little kid! That was awesome! Also, the scene when Logan was checking Max's back for the imprints, that was HOT! Anyways, Season 2 i hate you!

What do you guys think?

I dont agree.

Although I **loved** series 1 soo much, i rele enjoyed series two and i think it stood for more. I think she looked *alot* sexier in sereis 2. And I liked the end, the only thinkg that I didnt like about series 2 was how they didnt rele explain everything...

I don't know... I liked season 2. First, it had Alec. That by itself makes it a great season. Of course, season 1 had Zack, but Alec had more screen time. And he was, for the most time, more easy going than Zack. Before you'll say that it's just because he looked hot (Which he did. What can I say? Jensen is... ), my favorite Alec's scene is when he gave Max the speech in 'The Berrisford Agenda'. To me, that was the real Alec.

The whole cult storyline was interesting. And when this storyline cross pathes with Max as the savior storyline, the show had more depth. My opinion.

All in all, I think the two seasons where completely different. One was the search after Max's family. The other was freeing them, and makes us wonder about the cost of freedom. They were out of Manticore, but what was the price?

If I'm thinking about that, season 1 was all about Max. Season 2 was about Manticore, or better yet, Manticore after the fall. I think that the ideas which stood behind season two's storylines were far more interesting than season's one ideas. If I have to choose, I choose season two.

Couldnt of sed it better myself.

Alhthough sereis 2... i dont rele understand. What was the "rele bad" thing "possibly biblical bad thing to come". And they kept saying that Max was the peoples only hope... even the markings on her body sed that...!! What was it in the end...?

Thank you

As for the whole 'biblical bad thing to come', we had a long discussion about that some time ago over here. Hope that will help, though it will probablly make you even more confuse...

It's not that i didn't like season 2, it's just that i questioned many of the things they did. I still loved watching every episode even though i didn't feel that they lived up to their potential in making themes and plots. Mainly i just hated how they introduced the enomilees, i feel it was kind of immature and therefore probably turned off most of the viewers. What i also didn't like was that they never stopped the virus that was implanted in Max, however i don't frown upon it because they probably had plans for it in season 3. It was just kind of an upset.

Now i heard all your oppinions but yet no one mentioned the enomilees, what do you guys think of them.

I don't really like comparing the 2 as I liked both seasons and was just happy that there was a show like Dark Angel to watch

What I find weird about the enomilees is the fact that Manticore kept them alive.

Edited to add a clarification: When I'm talking about enomilees I'm not talking about the designate soldiers who weren't part of the X series (the X-5, X-6, X-7 etc.) but about the prototypes who didn't go so well. The ones the kids were scared from...

they kept them to be studied. thats all. see what happens if they get malaria, that kinda stuff.

My favourite season was season 2 but of course season 1 was good cause I actauly liked Max most of the time. On the subject of the nomlies Joshua,Mole,Dix and Luke along with Alec where my favourite characters in the show.

Do we know that (like, was it said somewhere during the show) or is that what you think?

I agree - every other week a new one popped up, seemingly out of nowhere. I sat in disbelief as a goo-spitting gossamer came out of hiding and appeared mid-season only to become some one's pet. The cult was almost too silly for me as well.


It seemed to me they weren't trying very hard, either. Why didn't they pursue the guy who saved Alec? What... can't leave Seattle?

I thought season 2 did have a better story though - minus the rough edges mentioned above - and how Max took on more and more responsibility. Toward the end it really rocked hard. I'll have to give the two very different seasons equal points.

Supposed to be a recurring comet or asteroid that either crashes or gives off viral debris as it passes by, for which Max has the only engineered antigen within her. It's in the dvd commentaries somewhere.

Oh, I liked this episode. Weird, but SO funny

I didn't know that... Thanks friendofCale

OMG... I totally forgot about the spitting gossamer. I hated that thing, when i saw that i nearly almost died. I think that was the breaking point... The point at which i knew why the series had ended. It was things like that that ruined all the chances of having a season 3. I think that event was sooooooooo childish that it killed off most of the older viewers (the people over 5 years old). Hmm, was that the episode when Max and Logan had like 12 hours together to do whatever they wished...? I don't remember, but for some reason it seems like it is that is the event.

Yup. Some of the best and worst all in one episode, for me anyway. I don't think the gossamer and romance mix very well.

I conveniently forgot the romance part... But I still think that the entire gossamer thing was pretty funny. Maybe at that point I didn't care for Max and Logan anymore (as a couple)?

Just from what they taught us about Manticore. How they think and act. Why else? Lydecker alone scares them, so its not to keep them afraid. And a good soldier isn't afraid of anything.

That damn gossamer ruined what may have become of a good night... F***ing gossamers.

Okay, I went through the transcript of 'Pollo Loco':
So, just the be clear, we are talking about the same 'creatures', right? The ones in the basement.
The scene clearly shows, in my opinion, that the kids, good soldiers or not, scared from them.

Your theory sounds good, but I just don't get what's the point in trying stuff on 'defects', so to speak. Even if they'll react to something in one way or another, it's not like there's anyone with the exact DNA anymore. They were the prototypes. The transgenics looked, and probablly were (DNA wise), different...


Transcript from Eyes Only

yeah. that does make sense. But they do love to study things.

Well season2 didnt really ruin all chances for a season3, the ratings were still good(better than all the new shows Fox had lately) and they were picked up for a Season3, but than Fox went back and decided to cancel it for a show we know as Firefly.

But ya Season1 was GREAT and it made it hard to be surpassed. But from the commentaries from Season2, Season3 sounded like it would be going back to the basics somewhat.

I don't know if you guys watched the commentary of the last episode but they said something like season 3 was a for sure thing on like wednesday and then on like thursday they said it hadn't been picked up. I'd like to know a little more information about that. Any of you guys hear more about it?

when trades went out, Fox had picked up DA for a 3rd season, but than they decided to also pick up Firefly which cost a lot to produce, so they decided to go back and yank DA and put Firefly in DAs timeslot.

Im still wondeirng why they moved DA from its orignal timeslot in Season1 to their death night(fridays)

Thats a good question. Considering most of the viewers that watched dark angel were teenagers or people that were most likely doing something on fridays. Man... FOX i wonder about you.....?

Season 2, by a long shot. Max was more matured- and I loved seeing all the transgenics coming together in Freak Nation= my favorite episode.

The only true bad things about season 2 was Logan the virus a bitchy moaning whiney Max and the freak of the week episodes. Now the virus and depressing Max could have been solved if Logan had died in the season finale like he was supposed to, but of course Weatherly and Alba desided to make it public that they where screwing each other and the creators where forced to keep him on and kill Zack instead.

Zack died? Where was I? Zack finally had a peaceful life. One that he deserved. Though I'm not sure that if he had any saying in that, that's the way he would have chose.
Logan? I cared less and less about him...

I meant in the season 1 finale when he shot himself in the head that was meant to have been Logan he would have died a heroic death sacrificing himself to save Max and Jensen would have been bought on as the male lead and Zacks involvement would'nt have changed much, you know how Zack is he would'nt have stayed in seatle.

Alec was suppose to be the leading character?! Damn Fox!

Actauly Fox wanted more of Alec and so did the writers and there where also rumours about an Alec spin off which I would have loved but of course Weatherly and JAlba lived in camerons ass it was weatherly who said that if they killed his character off that JAlba would walk which is why for most of season 2 Logan was just used for exposostion (and to keep Max unhappy) the writers did'nt know what do do with his character, and off course why we had so much of Alec.

My apology to Fox.

You know, I saw Michael on NCIS, and his character is pretty good. Maybe that's because there's NO question who's the star there - Mark Harmon (in my opinion). I don't get it. It was SO clear that bringing Jensen added so much to the show. Why fight it? I mean, if Michael threatened to take Jessica with him, I say: Go ahead!. I can't see the threat being put into action. Jessica wasn't such a big star (I think) after just one season. Plus, I don't see any young actor saying 'Goodbye' to James Cameron. I mean, it's James Cameron. And if they did go? Even better. The way I see it, if season two was about Alec as the main character, Dark Angel might have still be with us.

[/quote] My apology to Fox.

You know, I saw Michael on NCIS, and his character is pretty good. Maybe that's because there's NO question who's the star there - Mark Harmon (in my opinion). I don't get it. It was SO clear that bringing Jensen added so much to the show. Why fight it? I mean, if Michael threatened to take Jessica with him, I say: Go ahead!. I can't see the threat being put into action. Jessica wasn't such a big star (I think) after just one season. Plus, I don't see any young actor saying 'Goodbye' to James Cameron. I mean, it's James Cameron. And if they did go? Even better. The way I see it, if season two was about Alec as the main character, Dark Angel might have still be with us.[/quote]

Yes it would have been but Jalba was the star of the show and Logan was Camerons Gary Stu which is why they tried to make Logan out to be so perfect ecspecialy in the epiosde Freak Nation.

Gary Stu?

Ever heard of a Mary Sue well Gary Stu is the the male version well anyway heres a link to a good explaintion to it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue_fanfiction

Never heard of Mary Sue. Thanks for the link. So it's like a 'muse'? But why Michael?

Remember Freak Nation remember the super froggy legs remember him saving Alec with the froggy legs Logan was camerons alter ego so Logan had to be the hero had to get the girl. But of course I hate the comment that Logan made to Alec

Qoute from Television without pity - Freak Nation recap.



I hated the episode Freak Nation with a passion and can't bring myself to watch the epiosde in full

Thanks for summing that up for me (the link was good, but it actually involved reading )

At first i was convinced season1 was better but now im starting to change my mind. I really love every episode of season 2, i think Alec and Joshua are fantastic characters and i love them. White is a brilliant bad guy and i thought lydecker was bad lol. I think every episode in season 2 was brilliant from the beginning to the end. By the way the last episode of season 2 i thought was fantastic it’s such a shame that the show was canceled, I have so many questions. In the end i really think season 2 was better. Iv been a fan since the show first aired in the united kingdom and after watching each season over and over I think season 2 is best.

I did'nt like all the epiosdes of season 2 and thought season 2 was pretty crap apart from a couple of good episodes and like I've said before Alec was the only reason I carried on watching the show and I have nothing but hate for the character Logan and moderete dislike for Max.

Oh wow really ? I thought season 2 was fantastic. Season 1 was more believable and season 2 was more far fetched but it is sci-fi. Im not sure why i just loved season 2. I found every episode interesting the only one i didn’t like much was Boo . After id finished watching season 2 i was like wow I loved that and it had a great ending. Arggh you hate Logan i think he’s great and i love Max in season 2 she's so snappy reminds me of myself lol .

Well season 2 did have some episodes I liked all of them that had lots of Alec-y goodness in them like say The Berrisford Agenda for two main reasons 1st reason it was a Alec-centric episode and 2nd hardly any Logan and the scenes he was in he was a quite likeable. I agree with you about Boo that was the episode I really started to dislike Max actually I hated her in that episode the whole episode should never have been thought up let alone filmed. On the subject of Max I found her quite depressing and allot of her scenes where painful to watch and Logan I could never describe my hatred for Logan in anyway that is remotely eloquent *shrugs* but what can you do.

So why don’t you like him ? Yeh i like the Berrisford agenda as well. I think max was great in season 2 I love the first episode and Hit a sister back as well as gill girl , fuhgeddaboudit and Brianiac. Maybe i prefer season 2 because iv season 1 waaaaaaay 2 many times i don’t know i just love it.

Like I said I can't describe it theres way too many things I hate about him I proberly hate him more then he deserves but whatever anyway this Dark Angel thread on Television Without Pity has all the reasons I hate Logan written by many people http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/in...ic=2245314&st=0

Hmm well i don’t know i just love Logan, the only thing i hate about dark angel is that it was canceled. When dark angel season 2 aired in the uk i missed freak nation and because at the time i was in school getting 4 pound hr at a bad waitress job it took me moths to save up and by season 2. When i actually got it instead of just watching freak nation i put off watching it for like a week its weird to explain just i didn’t want to see the lassssst episode . Oh well i don’t know i just love season 2 i thought they were funny with Alec and Joshua. Season 2 seems so different from the first.

Apart of me is glad that there was no season 3 everything I've heard about it makes me glad the show was cancelled when it did I mean Weatherly and JAlba where wanting to be producers and if that was the case there would have been so little Alec the show would'nt have been watching.

Hmmm yeh i love Alec he was so funny . I dunno though i love season 2 but i think season 2 was really good with kendra and herbal.

They weren’t in season two they where in the first season.

Thats what i meant lol plus i miss zack in season 2 i know he was in like 1 episode.

If they would of made a season 3 and they showed less of Alec and more of Logan it would have been an awesome season. I liked Alec, i really did, however if he and Max would of hooked up it would have been horrible. I'd rather see Max and Zach together then Max and Alec. Over all though Max and Logan were the best. They would of also had to get rid of all the enomilees, saying that they all scattered to be free or something. Make the show more realistic and have like only the "X" series transgenics appear in episodes. That's what i would of liked to see.