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Spook
The Doctor goes further than ever before...

And Captain Jack is back! Yeah! grin.gif
Vinity
Captain Jack! Derek Jacobi AND John Simms jawdrop.gif Holy frell! I have to say, while it was a great ep and next week looks awesome. Last weeks was better.

I was so freaked when The Doctor clearly saw Jack running for the TARTIS and he left anyway. Great on how the Doctor can be quite ruthless. So Rose did change Jack, and the Dotor knew and left him there eek.gif eek.gif I loved all the levels in their little chat. Then coming to terms with their past. Jack sort of coming to terms with what he was. Letting poor Martha realize how special and just how much more Rose was than just the ex-girl friend AND lettting the poor professor figure out who he was.

I always found the Master as one of the most scary of the old time doctor who stories.


ONe question on time referances. I thought The doctor and Rose went to the end of the universe when they met Face of Bo the first time, and Casandra was supposed to be the last human. So what was this tme and where did these humans come from?
Spook
I wasn't keen on some aspects of this. Something bothered me, but I don't know what lol.gif

Maybe it was the doctor running away from Jack because he was 'wrong'. It wasn't Jack's fault - and I always thought the Doctor liked challenges. It didn't seem right he'd run away and not deal with Jack becoming immortal.

I liked how they got through all that though, with their man-chat.

Poor Martha, always playing second best to Rose. I bet she feels like the replacement wife for a widower lol.gif

I'm going to have to wait for next week to know better, but John Simm didn't work as the Master for me either frown.gif But I think he will next week - when we see more Master.

How could the TARDIS have left the Doctor behind? eek.gif I know any Timelord can use them, but as they're alive, you'd think there'd be some connection there between the two by now!

The Confidential was fun this week - everyone calling John Barrowman mad because of his enthusiasm and zaniness lol.gif He was laying on the floor, amongst the mud and rain, singing "I'm singing in the rain" at one point lol.gif (It was raining when the film the scenes where Martha and th Doctor leave the TARDIS and fist see Jack.)
Vinity
I'm going to have to make a friend of the confidential this week lol.gif I did do the confidential on Blink.

I was just do happy to see Simms I didn't really think if he was Master for me or not. I remember being very scared of The Master back when.

I think the TARDIS went cause of the Doctor's hand. They made a huge point of showing it.

I was OK with the Doctor running from Jack. It helped the TARDIS was running from him too. If the ship was that upset at him it makes the Doctors response more earned.

Sppok~Should we put a thread up on Marsters?
Spook
I forgot the hand was in the TARDIS! That would make sense then.

Also the link between the TARDIS and the Doctor strengthening his feelings against Jack - good point. I hadn't looked at it that way.

QUOTE(Vinity @ Jun 20 2007, 08:57 PM) *

Sppok~Should we put a thread up on Marsters?

Go for it!
Merlin_McCarley
Please the name is John Simm, not John Simms.

Six Versions of the Master but 8 actors-

Master No. One - Roger Delgado (1971-73)
Master No. Two - Peter Pratt (1976) and Geoffrey Beevers (1981)
Master No. Three - Anthony Ainley (1981-1989) Gordon Tipple (1996)
Master No. Four - Eric Roberts (1996)
Master No. Five - Sir Derek Jacobi (2007)
Master No. Six - John Simm (2007)
Vinity
Sorry, it sounds like they are saying Simms when they are pronouncing it.
mbozzo
'Utopia' is a good episode. We meet the desendents of the clones in this episode. We also meet a guy called the Professor, who is trying to save the human race. He turned out to be the Master, an old foe of the Doctor. It's ironic that as a human, he was a good guy, but became his old evil self, when he became a timelord again.
RoseTyler
This is a favorite episode of mine, not just for the season but for the series, for all sorts of reasons (although I wonder if, when I finally get to watch "Last of the Time Lords," if that won't become my new favorite; I'll have to wait and see). We get answers on why the Doctor left Jack behind, answers as to how Jack managed to get from the year 200100 to 21st century Cardiff, and we have that fabulous, fabulous Matchstick Scene* between the Doctor and Jack when Jack's twisting the canisters into place. I love the fact that it gives the two of them a chance to arrive towards at least the beginnings of some kind of understanding between them for the Doctor leaving Jack behind (I don't think Jack _likes_ the reason for it, but I think he somewhat _understands_ it; and Vinity, I like your point about even the TARDIS's rejection of Jack pointing to the idea that, while the Doctor leaving Jack behind still isn't entirely _excusable_, it is at least _understandable_) -- and, for his part, Jack seems to regain a little shot of hope. I love it when the Doctor asks him if he wants to die, and he tries to avoid the question, but then he says, "I thought I did. I don't know. But this lot -- you see them out here, surviving, and it's fantastic." Between the sentiment, and his use of the Ninth Doctor's catchphrase, I was quite definitely tearing up ...

But I also _love_:
"Wh-ut're you taking your clothes off for?!"
"I'm goin' in!"
"Wuhl -- but the radiation doesn't affect clothing, only flesh."
"Yeah! I look good, though."

Oh, I laugh every _single_ time I think of that line ... lol.gif

I would also like to add that I really hope the Confidential for this one is included in the USA DVDs, because I would like to hear about John Barrowman singing on set! smile.gif He has to be so _fun_ to work with, because I get the feeling that he so utterly loves his work that _he's_ always having fun, which is the best kind of person to work with in any profession!


* If you are not sure what I am talking about, you need to watch Eddie Izzard's "Dressed to Kill." grin.gif
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