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Duccia
Welcome To The 13th
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The Cliffhangers:

Archy
Bessie
Duccia
Gila
Isabel Anne Evans
Living in Oblivion
Lori R
Manda8706
Meghann
R2Roswell
stardusty
~*Sonia E.*~
princess, my love
nosuchthing224
TessHarding


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Reasons Why We Are Cliffies:

1.)They Shared Dreams
2.)They had a baby in the dreams
3.)Their kisses were passionate
4.)Michael brought Isabel milk
5.)Michael asked "why not?"
6.)Michael called his and Maria's relationship 'stupid'
7.)They always acted as if they were more than 'just friends'
8.)Michael came back to Isabel in "Independence Day"
9.)Michael and Isabel flirted in the kitchen
10.)Isabel was with Michael when he got sick
11.)Michael was with Isabel when she got shot
12.)Michael healed Isabel
13.)Isabel followed his voice back
14.)The book tells us so
15.)Isabel wanted Michael to stay at their house
16.)Isabel worries about Michael
17.)Isabel left Jesse behind
18.)Michael can tell Isabel anything and vise versa
19.)Isabel understands
20.)Isabel and Michael appreciate each other
21.)Michael and Isabel don't change who the other one is
22.)Isabel runs to Michael when an old flame returns
23.)Isabel was willing to kill Hank
24.)They went to the library together
25.)Isabel leaned her head on his shoulders at the library
26.)At the Cliff magic happens
27.)The 'V' constellation doesn't represent the royal seal of Antar; it represents Destiny
28.)They had their wedding dance
29.)Cause he made her birthday cake
30.)Cause they "were together before you were born and they will be together when you're nothing but bones"
31.)Cause their love was written in the stars
32.)Cause he wants her around...
33.)Because she said: "He's a prince"
34.)Because Isabel didn't want anyone around when Michael was sick
35.)Because Michael told Hank to leave her alone
36.)Because He was checking Her out
37.)Cause Michael did an alien test on Jesse
38.)Because Isabel ran into Michael's arms when she dream walked Max
39.)Because the Cliff doesn't represent the group meeting spot. It's Michael & Isabel's spot only
40.)Isabel was touched when Michael brought her the milk
41.)Michael has never been more happy than he was in the dreams
42.)Michael knew Isabel was different like he was different
43.)Michael watched Isabel when she was with Alex
44.)Izzie seemed sad when Michael was with Maria
45.)Michael watched Izzy dance
46.)Michael thought about their destiny in seasons 2 and 3
47.)It's etched in stone
48.)Their dupe counter parts were hot for each other
49.)Courtney was a Cliffie
50.)They had a romance even in 1947
51.)Isabel held Michael's jacket close in "The Intruder"
52.)She's his Christmas Nazi!
53.)They spent Valentine's Day together in Blind Date.
54.)It's not possible for him to stop needing her.
55.)Isabel will come for him whenever he needs her.
56.)She wants him to be part of the family.
57.)Their real home doesn't mean anything to her without Michael.
58.)She fixed up his place for him.
59.)Isabel cried every night wondering where Michael was when they lost him in the desert.
60.)All he cares about is what's happening to Isabel.
61.)Michael looked disappointed when Max told them Isabel wasn't pregnant with his baby.
62.)Isabel cared enough to buy Michael's Christmas present for Maria.
63.)Michael was staring at Isabel during the Christmas Pageant (and because he was still looking at her that night at the service).
64.)Because she was his "Izzy lizard"...
65.)Because he stood by her side during her akino...
66.)Because Isabel wants to let Michael talk.
67.)Because Michael wanted Grant to leave Isabel's surprise party.
68.)Because even though they are fighting, Max & Michael agree that Isabel shouldn't be with the Sorenson guy.
69.)Because the idea that Isabel is alone and can't talk to other guys works for him.
70.)Because Michael offered to talk to Isabel about what he felt after killing Pierce
71.)Because Iz takes Michael's side more so than Max...
72.)Because their story can be turned into a Nicholas Sparks novel...
73.)Because Isabel wants to take care of Michael and not strangers...
74.)Because both Michael and Isabel don't really listen to Maria when she's talking.
75.)Because his first thought after Brody tried to shoot them was of Isabel.
76.) Because Michael thought Maria was joking when she told him of Isabel's engagement.
77.)Because Michael thought Isabel's impending marriage to Jesse was wrong.
78.)Because even though he disapproved, Michael was the first person to congratulate Isabel on her engagement.
79.)Because Isabel ran to Michael when she realized her dreams were about Kivar and he wanted her back.
80.)Because they are always side-by-side.
81.)Because Michael leans toward Isabel every chance he gets.
82.)Because when she was watching him it felt like a heat lamp turned on the back of his head
83.)Because she gave him her lunch
84.)Because even Pierce was a Cliffie!!!


"Cliffie Love: Quotes..."
***Dreams are like stars...you may never touch them, but if you follow them they will lead you to your destiny...***

***Most of our lives are a series of images; they pass us by like towns on a highway. But sometimes a moment stuns us as it happens and we know that this instant is more than a fleeting image. We know that this moment, every part of it, will live on forever...***

***Some men see things as they are and ask why... Others dream things that never were and ask why not...***(R.F. Kennedy)

***You come to love not by finding the perfect person, but by seeing an imperfect person perfectly...***(Sam Keen)


"Cliffie Love: The Leaning Theory"

Lucy: [to Jack] Okay, um. What do you mean by the leaning thing? You mean because he gave me flowers?
Jack: And then you *leaned*
Lucy: And then I leaned.
Jack: Yeah.
Lucy: Okay, how did I lean when I leaned?
Jack: It was a lot different from hugging. Hugging's very different. Hugging that involves arms and hands; and leaning is whole bodies moving in like this
[leans toward her suggestively]
Jack: . Leaning involves *wanting*... and *accepting*. *Leaning*...
Joe Jr.: Hey Luce! Is this guy bothering you?
Lucy: [Laughs] No, no.
Joe Jr.: Are you sure? Because it looks like he's *leaning.*


(quotes from "While You Were Sleeping")

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Because you can lie to yourself, but body language will speak for you!!!



"Cliffie Love: The Staring Theory"


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"Man, oh, man. She looks good!"

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"Her hair smells nice."

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"I wonder what excuse I could make to sit beside her."

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Here you go, the two of them staring at each other.

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Focus, Michael. Focus.

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...even in 1947!

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Michael, we're heading this way.

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Tess is the one who's using her powers but look at where Michael is looking.

...Because the Eyes are the Mirror of the Soul...


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Cliffie Love... from Springfield!!!



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Cliffhanger Fiction Sites:


Lori's Fics
Cliffhanger's Getaway
Loving Destiny
Cliffhangers
Destiny Returns - by SWJaggy
Reasons for Living - by SWJaggy
True Love Waits by SWJaggy
My Beloved Michael by Midwest Max

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Cliffhanger Soundtrack:

Bless The Broken Road- Rascal Flatts
My Heart Will Go On - Celine Dion
Fallen - Delerium
Far Away- Nickleback
Brighter than Sunshine - Aqualung
Between - Vienna Teng
I Can't Get Over You - Buddy Miller
Keep Holding On - Avril Lavigne
Boys of the Summer - Don Henley
I cant fight this feeling anymore- Reo Speedwagon
Broken-Evanescence
You Don't Know Me- Jann Arden
When The Heartache End - Rob Thomas
Wires - Athlete
What if? - Coldplay
More Than Friends - 3lw
Please Remember - LeeAnn Rymes
Everytime - Brittany Spears
My destiny - Katharine McPhee
Signal Fire - Snow Patrol
For You - The Calling
Tell it to my heart - Taylor Dayne
I'd Do Anything - Simple Plan
Somewhere - Within Temptation
First Time - Lifehouse
Making Memories of Us - Keith Urban
Simple Together - Alanis Morissette
Blush (Only You) - Plumb
All At Once - The Fray
A lonely September - Plain White T's
Even Angels Fall - Jessica Riddle
I knew I loved you - Savage Garden

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Cliffhanger Videos

Fallen
For Michael & Isabel
The signs are all around them
How we operate
Michael & Isabel
Wake me up
Making memories of us
Not about Love
I'd do Anything
Tell it to my Heart
Lacrymosa
Gone Forever
A Lonely September
Always on your side




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Previous Thread

Cliffhanger Thread #12: Because you can lie to yourself, but body language will speak for you


And now Cliffies... Let's get the party started!!! grin.gif cool.gif
nosuchthing224
Yay new cliffie thread! grin.gif Btw I looooved that video that was posted on the last thread. It was amazing. hearthrob.gif
R2Roswell
Excellent a new thread! We sure go through these fast. Love the title!
Meghann
Yay!! I've been stuck in real life so long, that I return to cliffie land to find a new thread. Great title by the way!!
~*Sonia E.*~
Great start to the new thread! I've just read the Cliffie reasons, quotes, and theories all over again. nod.gif I love the "While You Were Sleeping" quote.
Archy
I'm a cliffie, add me smile.gif
R2Roswell
Hey Archy, welcome to the Cliffie thread! Hope you enjoy it here. We always have a blast when it comes to Michael and Isabel!
Duccia
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I'm a cliffie, add me


Welcome to Cliffieland Archy!!! It's great to have a new member in our family!!! hurray.gif
Lori R
Duccia lovely new thread smile.gif
The title does take me back smile.gif
R2Roswell
In honor of the title!

I Can't Fight This Feeling by Reo Speedwagon

I cant fight this feeling any longer
And yet Im still afraid to let it flow
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What started out as friendship, has grown stronger
I only wish I had the strength to let it show
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I tell myself that I cant hold out forever
I said there is no reason for my fear
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Cause I feel so secure when were together
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You give my life direction
You make everything so clear
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And even as I wander
Im keeping you in sight
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Youre a candle in the window
On a cold, dark winters night
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And Im getting closer than I ever thought I might
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And I cant fight this feeling anymore
Ive forgotten what I started fighting for
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Its time to bring this ship into the shore
And throw away the oars, forever
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Cause I cant fight this feeling anymore
Ive forgotten what I started fighting for
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And if I have to crawl upon the floor
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Come crashing through your door
Baby, I cant fight this feeling anymore
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My life has been such a whirlwind since I saw you
Ive been running round in circles in my mind
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And it always seems that Im following you, girl
Cause you take me to the places that alone Id never find
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And even as I wander Im keeping you in sight
Youre a candle in the window on a cold, dark winters night
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And Im getting closer than I ever thought I might
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And I cant fight this feeling anymore
Ive forgotten what I started fighting for
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Its time to bring this ship into the shore
And throw away the oars, forever
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Cause I cant fight this feeling anymore
Ive forgotten what I started fighting for
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And if I have to crawl upon the floor
Come crushing through your door
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Baby, I cant fight this feeling anymore.
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~*Sonia E.*~
Lovely songcap! You're very good at it R2Roswell! grin.gif
Lori R
R2R applause.gif well done! grin.gif
R2Roswell
Glad you all appreciate my work smile.gif It's fun doing those song caps. I like matching the pictures with the lyrics.
nosuchthing224
R2R that was perfect! grin.gif Now I need to go listen to the song! grin.gif I love the song caps! hearthrob.gif
Archy
Well done R2Roswell smile.gif
lyric
That song was used on 'Supernatural' wink.gif Good song choice, R2Roswell.

Is it just me, or does the first post grow from one thread to the other?
Lori R
Of course it grows! lol.gif There is so much to love about them grin.gif
~*Sonia E.*~
Love that answer Lori R! lol.gif
Lori R
It's my Cliffie passion smile.gif
~*Sonia E.*~
I definitely see and understand the Cliffie passion! grin.gif
R2Roswell
Same here! It's no life without Cliffie love!

Okay here's a new discussion topic:

[If you can remember], What was it that first drew you to becoming a Cliffhanger?

For me I would have to say that when I first saw them (in "The Convention"), they lacked the normal friendship vibe. And they lacked the "brother/sister" vibe too. I remember the scene so vividly- it was when Max was walking in the alien suit and the way that Michael and Isabel were so close to each other- it didn't seem friendly or sibling like. My first thought was, "Are they together?" I'm sure you all can relate to my disappointment when I found out otherwise. But they were so close to the point of hand holding close.

It was clear Isabel and Max were related but there just seemed no way that Isabel and Michael could be related unless they married.
~*Sonia E.*~
I've watched Roswell from the beginning and knew that Max, Michael, and Isabel came out of the pods together, but Michael was separated from them until later on. Max and Isabel were presented as brother and sister, but I never saw Michael and Isabel as such. I've always noticed how close Michael and Isabel were, I just never thought of them being romantically linked.

Then when TPTB went the "destiny" route, I believe Mi/I should have also been included to their full potential. Yes Vilandra betrayed her family for Kivar in a past life, but in their present lives on Earth Michael and Isabel had natural and genuine feelings of love for each other. I could see them together and lasting because their love and caring for one another was very real.
nosuchthing224
I actually started thinking that MI/I should get together when she was wearing the animal print outfit and she said she was going on a date, he seemed so protective...I mean Max was her real brother and he didn't really seem to care why she was dressed up...they just seemed to have this tension between them. THen definitely in blind date when they went to leave the message for Nasedo. I was so convinced that they were going to get together but then they didn't. :-/ I just figured they would because if Michael had cared as much about Maria as he claimed in later episodes I just figured he would go see her sing...but then again he is a guy...who knows! shrug.gif
Lori R
The animal skin outfit did it for me too nod.gif

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Sonia:
Then when TPTB went the "destiny" route, I believe Mi/I should have also been included to their full potential. Yes Vilandra betrayed her family for Kivar in a past life, but in their present lives on Earth Michael and Isabel had natural and genuine feelings of love for each other. I could see them together and lasting because their love and caring for one another was very real.

Exactly! Nicely said nod.gif
~*Sonia E.*~
I agree. Michael was very protective of Isabel going out on dates. There was tension between Mi/I when she was going out with Grant in S2, though Michael said that Max told him to talk to Isabel.

Thanks Lori. smile.gif
nosuchthing224
Yeah he never seemed to like her being with other guys
~*Sonia E.*~
It could have been Michael's "second-in-command" personality or his real and natural feelings for Isabel coming to the surface.
Archy
I think it was Michael showing his alien side, like when he had the seal, he went right after Jesse, out of his alien instint.
Lori R
I think you both could be right.
~*Sonia E.*~
nod.gif Michael's alien instincts and human feelings played a large role.
Duccia
Hey wonderful Family!!! grouphug.gif How's Cliffie love today???

I found this great site and i couldn't resist... grin.gif

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Archy
lol, that's funny... awesome picture there smile.gif
~*Sonia E.*~
Duccia, that's great! Coccy did some great ones with Max and Liz from The Simpsons too. lol.gif
Duccia
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Duccia, that's great! Coccy did some great ones with Max and Liz from The Simpsons too. lol.gif


Really??? I didn't know that... Well I guess we're all experiencing Simpson's Fever here in Italy... lol.gif anyway, I'll have a look at them... I love Coccy's works!!! hearthrob.gif
~*Sonia E.*~
I love Coccy's works too. nod.gif And I like Simpson's fever in Italy! lol.gif
Lori R
I'm not a Simpson's fan, but those are cute lol.gif
~*Sonia E.*~
The great thing about Michael and Isabel is though they had a past life of betrayal, in their present life they had natural and genuine feelings of love for each other. If they ever decide to give their relationship a real try and it doesn't work, at least they'd be living in the here and now.

Any new Cliffhanger arts? grin.gif
nosuchthing224
Sonia E, GORGEOUS AVI! grin.gif

I love the Simpsons thing smile.gif

Annnd last night I watched one of my favorite 'cliffhanger' episodes last night. 'Independence Day' I know that most people consider it Candy and I do too in a way...but I seriously think it perfectly portrayed Isabel's love for Michael. The way she worried about him...so cute! grin.gif
Duccia
Yeah, Independence Day is pure Cliffieness... love.gif I even wrote a Cliffie review for that episode in a previous thread... I'll repost it here too...

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Cliffie scene #1: Isabel is the first to notice that Michael is acting weird and she immediatly goes to Max asking for help...

ISABEL: Hey. Something's up with Michael. He's acting weird.

MAX: Weirder than usual?

ISABEL: Yeah, no, I just saw him at the other end of the hall, and he just went the other way.



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Cliffie scene #2: Isabel goes after Michael and tries to convince him to talk to her father and ask for his help... She can't let Hank hurt him again...

ISABEL: Maybe you could talk to my dad. He's a lawyer. He could help. He once told me about this...this case he had where he helped a minor get permission to live on his own.

MICHAEL: Forget it, Iz. The last thing we need is for me to go to the courts and bring all this attention to us.

ISABEL: Well, if he hurts you again, Michael...


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Cliffie scene #3:DINNER and MONOPOLY!!! Have you ever noticed how Isabel was trying to get Michael out of trouble all the time, while Max just remained silent??? She really wanted her parents to accept him...

DIANE: So, Michael, how long is your father away?

ISABEL: Oh, just a couple of days, actually.

PHILLIP: What does your dad do again, Michael?

MICHAEL: He's not my dad. He's my foster father.

ISABEL: Actually, he's in, um, marketing.

PHILLIP: Isabel, are you gonna let Michael answer a question?


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MICHAEL: How about I just catch you next time around?

PHILLIP: You'll catch me on the next time around?

DIANE: That's a new rule.

MAX: Michael, we...we usually pay on arrival.

ISABEL: That's ok, I'll lend it to him.

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Cliffie scene #4:he's upset and she goes after him again, trying to make him reason... She looks really worried...

ISABEL: Michael. Michael! You didn't have to be so rude to my dad.

MICHAEL: Rude? He was sticking it to me for no reason.

ISABEL: It was a game!

MICHAEL: He doesn't like me.

ISABEL: He doesn't know you.

MICHAEL: I don't want him to know me.

ISABEL: He could help you. You just have to speak up and tell him the truth.

MICHAEL: And what, be a poster child for domestic abuse? It's not gonna happen.

ISABEL: You have to do something, Michael. Please don't just pretend it didn't happen. Please.


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MAX: He's not easy, Isabel. Never has been.

ISABEL: I know that.

MAX: You can't push him like that.

ISABEL: He was acting like a child.

MAX: Maybe. And maybe you need to stop treating him like one. He can't make up for in one night what he's never had in a lifetime.

ISABEL: I'm really scared for him, Max.


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Cliffie scene #5: one of my favourites... If you ever touch Michael again, I will kill you!

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Cliffie scene #6: a litle bit of angst... But every love story needs it once in a while...

ISABEL: Go on and run, Michael, it's what you do best.

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Cliffie scene #7: Thinking about you...

ISABEL: You see this? This is all I know about who we are. These stones that River Dog gave us at the cave when Michael was sick. They're the only thing we have from the place we came from. It was the first time I realized we had a home somewhere...a real place. They don't mean anything...not without Michael.

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Cliffie scene #8: SURPRISE!!!

ISABEL: What are you doing?

MICHAEL: Making an omelette. What does it look like?

ISABEL: I didn't know you could cook.

MICHAEL: Yeah, well, uh, there's a lot you don't know about me.

ISABEL: Yeah. You're full of surprises.

MICHAEL: Yup.

ISABEL: Thanks.


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Cliffie scene #9: I'm so proud of you...


... So, this is a Michael centric episode and guess who is in almost every scene with him??? eyebrows.gif Exactly... Isabel... HIS LITTLE SISTER!!! lmao.gif

~*Sonia E.*~ lovely icon!!! hearthrob.gif

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If they ever decide to give their relationship a real try and it doesn't work, at least they'd be living in the here and now


But we know that it will work!!! love.gif

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Any new Cliffhanger arts?


Nope... no.gif But I have an old one... innocent.gif

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Lori R
Great scenes from that ep nod.gif
nosuchthing224
That review of ID was pure gold. nod.gif I loved all those scenes!
R2Roswell
Hey guys, sorry I haven't posted much here, I've been so attached to George & Izzie now that a new season of Grey's has started.
Living in Oblivion
sad.gif Me too. I'm so sorry for abandoning this thread. I've been so busy with school and work, I barely have time to sleep. I'll try to keep up with you guys in here from now on. smile.gif
~*Sonia E.*~
Duccia, I love your Cliffie review for ID. The caps and the art is great! grin.gif
Lori R
Glad to see this thread up on page one again smile.gif
R2Roswell
Yeah, it is good that this thread is up again. Things in my life have been crazy but that's college for you right.
Lori R
Max remembered Tess.
Max got Tess pregnant.
Why do you think no one seemed worried about Michael and Isabel's destiny from the book coming true?
~*Sonia E.*~
I've always wondered that myself. Destiny was the theme for S2 and so important for The Royal Four to perform their duties and fight evil aliens to save their planet. It seemed Max/Tess were only required to perform mating rituals while Michael/Isabel were given a pass. I would have liked to see Mi/I also included to their full potential and their "destiny" explored too.
R2Roswell
I think mainly the reason they all overlooked it was because it was something they really didn't want to think about. Michael and Isabel were both so afraid that they kept pushing their destiny away and when Max and Tess got things going, that made them want to push even more since they didn't want to have to fall into it. And Maria was keen on making sure nothing happened since she was the one to want to be with Michael and everything.

Ultimately though I think that with all of the pushing, something would eventually click and they would be brought together. That's how those things go: you push and you push and you push but then you get tired of pushing and tired of resisting that those brick walls soon disappear and you are left with some unknown force that brings it brings it all together.
Lori R
I would have liked to have seen them get together as well.
Dreams were nice, but the real deal would have been better.
I still can't figure why the writers threw in Tess (though I like her) to mess with Max and Liz, instead of letting Michael and Isabel carry the alien/alien destiny out shrug.gif I imagine there were any number of storylines that would have worked just as well besides the one they came up with. Then Kyle could have had Tess wink.gif
It just doesn't mesh that no one said, "Maybe those dreams Isabel and Michael had DID mean something."
I'm such a Cliffie lol.gif
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