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Isabel Anne Evans
ABC Episode Description Press Release

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MEREDITH STRUGGLES WITH THE DISCOVERY OF HER MOTHER'S LONG-LOST DIARY, AND CRISTINA ENTERS A PART OF THE HOSPITAL THAT SHE AND THE OTHER
RESIDENTS HAVE NEVER SEEN, ON ABC'S "GREY'S ANATOMY"

"Brave New World" - Meredith freaks out when Derek discovers her mother's old diary in the house, Callie frets as she prepares for her first official date with Erica, and Cristina stumbles into a part of the hospital that neither she nor her fellow residents have seen before, on "Grey's Anatomy," THURSDAY, OCTOBER 16 (9:00-10:01 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network

"Grey's Anatomy" stars Ellen Pompeo as Meredith Grey, Patrick Dempsey as Derek Shepherd, Sandra Oh as Cristina Yang, Katherine Heigl as Isobel "Izzie" Stevens, Justin Chambers as Alex Karev, T.R. Knight as George O'Malley, Chandra Wilson as Miranda Bailey, James Pickens, Jr. as Richard Webber, Sara Ramirez as Callie Torres, Eric Dane as Mark Sloan, Chyler Leigh as Lexie Grey and Brooke Smith as Erica Hahn.

Guest starring Amy Aquino as Marianne, Larry Brandenburg as Arnie, Bre Blair as Lauren, John Sloan as David, Steven W. Bailey as Joe, Kathleen Early as Dr. Daisy Pepman and Max Burkholder as Duncan.

"Brave New World" was written by Debora Cahn and directed by Eric Stoltz.


Promotional pictures

MQs Pictures
http://spoilertv-greysanatomy.blogspot.com...romotional.html

HQs - Izzie Stills (continues onto page 2)
http://www.kheigl.com/images/television/gr.../s5promoimages/

Promos

Promo #1
Youtube Video -> Original Video


Promo #2 (CTV)
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Another quality version of Promo #2
Youtube Video -> Original Video


Promo #3
Youtube Video -> Original Video


Sneak Peeks haven't been released yet shrug.gif.
TVR
Soon be Thursday...
Isabel Anne Evans
Hey, look finally sneak peeks lol.gif.

Sneak Peek #1 (Mark, Derek, Alex, and Izzie)
Youtube Video -> Original Video


Damn, Derek is uber-annoying this season rolleyes.gif. His BS and hypocrisy are seriously driving me up the wall since it was just last week he was using Alex and Izzie's personal lives to boot them out of Casa Interns, and bribing Cristina(during a patient exam) to have her side with him. Just...ugh..talk about calling the kettle black considering the past five seasons. He seriously needs to start listening to the residents and interns, or at least treat them with respect. Don't get me wrong Derek is right that at work he is Izzie's boss not her roommate, however; the way he did it was unnecessarly harsh and quite hypocritical. Alas, then there is Alex who just threw his "hello" from last week out the window. Man, can't wait until Izzie does her smackdown on him wink.gif.

The interesting part is that in the promo it looks like Izzie does scrub in with Derek for the surgery afterall, and gets her patient back from Alex in the end. At least the promo implies this, so I wonder how Izzie gets her patient back and is able to work with Derek given the tension between them.

Sneak Peek #2 (Original Interns, Chief, Gexie, and Bailey)
Youtube Video -> Original Video


Sneak Peek #3 (MerDer)
Youtube Video -> Original Video


Sneak Peek #4 (Callie and Bailey)
Youtube Video -> Original Video
TVR
Looks like they left the sneak peeks til the last minute smile.gif
Hopefully it will be a good Izzie episode this evening.
lilkatie79
I think it was definitely a good Izzie episode. I enjoyed it and combining last week's epi, which I loved - I think Deborah Kahn (sp?) wrote(?), and this week's epi, I think we're getting back on track with the Grey's we know and love. Katherine reminded me why I enjoy watching her so much in everything she does - she has such a genuine quality in her acting.

One thing that kind of irked me though was the fact they we were supposed to care about the little body Duncan and how he was afraid, yet we see Meredith so carelessly lying about knowing his surgical procedure and doing it for the first time that day. It just seemed so irresponsible and made me think about how residents at my local hospitals practice procedures pre-surgery.

Also, as echoed in one review I read, I thought T.R. had a great arc in the episode with a superb performance that was just right.
Isabel Anne Evans
I'll write my opinion of the episode tomorrow until then here are some caps (credit: exhibitionists) and vids from last night's episode smile.gif :

Derek/Izzie Teaser Scene
Youtube Video -> Original Video


Alex/Izzie Scenes
Youtube Video -> Original Video

Also includes Izzie's smackdown, and her scene with the patient's wife.

Meredith, Izzie, and Cristina @ "Magical World" aka Dermatology Part 1
Youtube Video -> Original Video

George's scene with the girls is also included.

Meredith, Izzie, and Cristina @ "Magical World" aka Dermatology Part 2
Youtube Video -> Original Video


The gang @ Joe's Bar
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Hopefully someone uploads the McStizzie scenes this weekend nod.gif.

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TVR
Nice screencap choices Mel - captured some wonderful expressions. smile.gif
Isabel Anne Evans
Thanks Chief smile.gif. She was so animated in this week's episode nod.gif.

Overall, I have to say "Brave New World" is the first episode from season five that is truly my favorite. Now don't get me wrong I did enjoy "Here Comes The Flood" and the premiere, however; I had more fun as a viewer with this episode. "Brave New World" had the essentials of a great GA episode: focus on the original interns, comedy, interactions, angst, friendship, competition, and tension. All the pieces that made GA were in this episode. Some of my favorite highlights from the episode were:

Izzie/Alex & Derek - Even though this portion of the episode was one of my favorite highights I have to say I had mixed emotions about it.

The Bad
Immaturity - Every person in this subplot arc expressed immaturity from Izzie's temper tantrums to Derek's insecurity. In the ABC GA's Panel a few weeks back the immaturity of the characters was discussed(well it was discussed in my chat room). These characters are either over or close to 30s year old, and they are now residents. They shouldn't be behaving like this anymore. While a part of me loves it since it's classic GA another part of me is annoyed by it since I want to see a bit more maturity. Has to be some type of medium shrug.gif.

Derek - Worst Attending Mentor Ever rolleyes.gif. While he was in the right to reprimand Alex and Izzie for their behavior, because let's face it they were acting immature, however, as a teacher Derek also handled the situation wrongly and hypocritically(as previously stated in my sneak peek post). The moment Derek knew Alex lied about the patient should have been the moment he should have took Alex off the case no if's, and's, or but's. Far as I remember the patient didn't request Karev at all, so it shouldn't have been out of Derek's hands then. As the situation between Alex and Izzie increased so did Derek's lack of control of the situation. Derek basically allowed the situation to get out of hand because he did nothing about it until he lost complete, utter control. He didn't listen nor care to find out what exactly happened in regards to the patient stealing. If a teacher doesn't listen nor care about their students to some degree, then it's going to reflect terriblely on the teacher IMO. Alex and Izzie should have handled themselves better, but so should have Derek. Derek was definitely not an innocent attending in all of this.

Alex - Most of his part in the storyline is self-explantory due to terrible behavior, but what takes the cake is his excuse for being mean to Izzie. After Alex explained himself I automatically thought that he needed several sessions with Dr. Wyatt lol.gif (granted all the characters do by now lol). While it does explain his behavior in this situation, however; it doesn't mesh with what we already know and seen of Alex Karev. Since the beginning Alex has been callous, mean-spirited, and etc not only to Izzie, but to so many characters on the show. We are in the fifth season, so I'm merely seeing his explaination/apology in regards to his recent behavior. The thing is Alex tends to act very meanly because that's what his character does. That's how he is anyways shrug.gif. So his explain and/or apology to Izzie didn't do much for me due to his character traits. Sure Alex apologized which is a progressive step for Alex's character, but going through four seasons of this it didn't exactly cut it for me. Don't get me wrong Alex has his moments when he's sweet and kind, but overall that's not in his overall nature.

As stated at the end of last season I don't exactly feel for his character, but for me to even jump onto the bandwagon of Alex/Izzie again, or even tolerate Alex Karev again the writers are going to have to redeem him in my eyes. The writers are going to have to show me, as a viewer, progression, treating not only Izzie well but people around him well, and etc. I just honestly need to see some positives. A. Lot. Of. Positives.

That said I can still appreciate Alex/Izzie storyline because it's wondeful acting material for both Katherine and Justin, and thus giving great amount of screentime for Katherine/Izzie smile.gif.

The Good
Immaturity - There are two sides to every coin lol. Granted Alex and Izzie were just downright immature, but it was still so freakin' amusing and funny to watch lol.gif. Plus I was glad that Izzie was able to get back her surgery and patient because he was rightfully hers. Alex needed to learn that lesson. Sometimes you have to get down and dirty to prove a point because Alex just continued to push the envelope. You could tell Alex wasn't going to stop until Izzie put her foot down, and she did just that. It was definitely immature, but for GA characters it had to be done or Alex simply would continue on with his abuse. Katherine was just great in the comedy scenes, and it brought about some great interaction moments with the other characters.

Izzie's Smackdown - The moment many of us have waited for woohoo.gif. This has to be one of my favorite smackdowns on the show because it was perfectly led up to and worded. Izzie had valid reasons to be pissed at Alex, and to get him back for what he did to her. Her smackdown was right up with her S1 smackdowns in the locker room and O.R. grin.gif. The moments Izzie was pissed off were so interesting to watch since they were either funny or tense. Katherine just hit out of the park.

In relation to Izzie's character I enjoyed her scenes with the patient's wife. The part where they grabbed each other's arm was so sweet.

Derek - Now I'm obiviously not a Derek fan, however; there was on scene I did enjoy with his character: the teaser scene. That scene between Derek and Izzie was so funny even though Derek could have just came out with a robe on since Izzie knocked lol. Patrick and Katherine did a wonderful job with their comedy scene and angst-tension scenes. The way they bounce off each other is interesting to watch.

George & Duncan - I've been wondering when George would get his chance to shine since it seemed like they were backburning him. George was very endearing and sweet with Duncan, and T.R. just has this natural chemistry with the little boy who played Duncan. Their scenes together were very memorable, and I'm glad to see George finally become a resident because his repeated-intern storyline just went nowhere lol shrug.gif.

"Magical World" aka Dermatology - When I read about this place in the sides I thought it would be uber-lame. It didn't seem appealing on paper, however; the characters of Cristina, Izzie, Mer, and George just brought this whole other world to life. I loved how the original interns looked at the Dermatology residents as if they were in a zoo exhibit lol.gif. They were just completely intrigued by this whole other world. The reactions of each member of the Original Interns when they walked into the place were priceless lol.gif. I loved how Cristina found the place because she had to pass by yelling Chief(seriously his yelling is uber-annoying this season), pissed off Izzie(she was funny in this moment), and Bailey commanding attention. As she passed by all this tense-angered moments with people she knew she found the Magical World where everything is slow, relaxing, and bright and shiney lol. It was a great to see the parallels.

The scenes in the Magical World were my favorite because you can see the natural chemistry between Katherine, Sandra, Ellen, and T.R. The way they bounce off each other was awesome, and classic GA. I loved how we finally got our first Gizzie friendship moment of the season woohoo.gif. I've been dying for a Gizzie moment and the one they showed was awesome. I loved their talk about the wild west salon(classic Gizzie), and how supportive he was of Izzie getting back her surgery/patient. I also loved that we got the GA Girls together again for an episode. I always loved when they put those three together.

McStizzie - We got to two McStizzie scenes woohoo.gif. I loved that Mark tries to mentor the interns his own way. He's always been 50-50 on the success of his mentoring, but at least he tries more compared to the other attendings. I always loved the mentor scenes between Izzie and Mark.

Like I said this episode was definitely one of my favorites from S5 smile.gif.

QUOTE(lilkatie79 @ Oct 17 2008, 06:19 AM) *

I think Deborah Kahn (sp?) wrote(?), and this week's epi,

I believe Deborah wrote this episode nod.gif. Too bad her writer's blog wasn't too thrilling shrug.gif.

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Katherine reminded me why I enjoy watching her so much in everything she does - she has such a genuine quality in her acting.

ITA nod.gif. One of the reasons I enjoy watching Izzie's character is because you can watch Katherine act all over the place in the emotional spectrum, and she acts each emotional point to a tee. I really enjoyed Katherine's acting in this episode. She was funny, tough, endearing, animated, and this episode you can definitely notice Katherine's various voice volumes(soft, funny, and badass). Every scene she was in she did something new. For an example, when Duncan and George went into the wrong O.R.(great moment in the episode lol.gif ) the reaction of Izzie was so funny due to her eye movements lol.gif. While Derek and Mark was just frozen at seeing a little boy exit their O.R. quickly Izzie was stunned and looked to her attendings with a WTF look lol.gif. Another facial expression was Izzie's reaction to entering the Magical World lol.gif.

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One thing that kind of irked me though was the fact they we were supposed to care about the little body Duncan and how he was afraid, yet we see Meredith so carelessly lying about knowing his surgical procedure and doing it for the first time that day. It just seemed so irresponsible and made me think about how residents at my local hospitals practice procedures pre-surgery.

I have to admit it irked me too because in this episode we actually knew the patient. We watched how Duncan interacted with George and the other doctors in the hospital. It didn't mesh well with Meredith's lying cardio problem because of the amount of screentime and endearing moments Duncan had. That stated Hahn's physical threat also annoyed me because it was so gosh darn graphic eek.gif. She could have reprimanded Meredith another way, so how I'm a bit curious on how Hahn will react to Izzie's LVAD incident reveal in 5.07. I would imagine Hahn being uber-pissed at her especially since Hahn has showed a tiny bit of fondness towards Izzie last season.
Isabel Anne Evans
I'm de-topping this thread to make way for the next episode thread.
Isabel Anne Evans
New Zealand Promo:

Youtube Video -> Original Video


Loved how comedical and badass Izzie was in this episode nod.gif.
luzaleja
AHAHA! "Love the outfit" I love that line grin.gif
Also loved her sticking up for herself nod.gif
And the wild wild west thing lol.gif TY! smile.gif
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