WildB
Dec 8 2008, 05:05 PM
Hoping to find a way to stop Arthur, Hiro and Claire band together and travel back in time 16 years to when Kaito gave baby Claire to H.R.G. Meanwhile, Peter and the Haitian team up to finish off Arthur Petrelli for good, but are interrupted by Sylar. Elsewhere, in the lab, Suresh has a major breakthrough with the formula that will likely change everything.I will be around for the live chat. My schedule changed again so I can watch the show live.
vilandragirl
Dec 9 2008, 12:31 AM
I can't wait to see the rest of the scene with Hiro and Claire. I am pretty stoked for this epi!
Lori R
Dec 9 2008, 01:22 AM
Does she want Claire for Hiro?
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 01:25 AM

Hiro and his lack of English is funny. Interesting scene with Hiro's parents. His mom was a healer. So maybe Hiro is the catalyst after all. Hmmm, would be more interesting that way.
Sylar seems back to normal.
Lori R
Dec 9 2008, 01:29 AM
More questions

Yes, Sylar is back to normal
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 01:30 AM
Juts kill your daddy, Peter and be done with it. He is not a nice man. I am disappointed in Nathan.
Lori R
Dec 9 2008, 01:34 AM
Mom is very trusting of strangers

The little army was
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 01:36 AM
Yeah the army was disturbing.
Ugh Sylar really is back to his normal self.
Lori R
Dec 9 2008, 01:37 AM
I don't want creepy, murderous Sylar back! I want good Sylar! Sylar with heart!
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 01:40 AM
Actually I like creepy Sylar better in a way. Him being all goody-two-shoes suddenly did not fly with me.
Lori R
Dec 9 2008, 01:42 AM
Hey, that is the 'kid' from oh....what was the name of the show where aliens were taking over?
I liked it too? Hmmmm....that kid was taken away and came back in a coma. It was on USA.
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 01:44 AM

Hiro cooking. Wow, little Hiro looks a lot like him.
vilandragirl
Dec 9 2008, 01:45 AM
I love how Mrs. Bennet just lets a stranger into her apartment to change her baby.

That was a neat moment of her getting to see her mom when she was a baby.
Our scary Sylar is back!

"Cake"
What happened to Nathan? Did I blink at the end of the last epi, or something? I don't remember seeing him decide to team up with Dad.
Lori R
Dec 9 2008, 01:46 AM
Hiro cooking was funny

You were right about Mom wanting Hiro to have the power.
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 01:48 AM
QUOTE(vilandragirl @ Dec 8 2008, 09:45 PM)

What happened to Nathan? Did I blink at the end of the last epi, or something? I don't remember seeing him decide to team up with Dad.
You blinked because he did.

Yeah I wonder if Hiro ends up being the Catalyst. I did not like the Idea of Claire being it because everyone already figured it out.
vilandragirl
Dec 9 2008, 01:49 AM
C'mon, he can teleport through time and space! You want him to be able to cook, too?
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 01:53 AM
Claire is just selfish

Okay so I think I am right about Hiro. Okay loving this Hiro scene now.
vilandragirl
Dec 9 2008, 01:58 AM
I agree. She wasn't brought back to change things, she shouldn't have.
I am loving the scene with Hiro and his mother. And it will make a lot more sense that Hiro becomes the catalyst, because Mom knows he grew up to be responsible.
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 01:58 AM
**sniffles** after last scene
Yeah because Claire is NOT responsible enough.
Lori R
Dec 9 2008, 01:59 AM
Great scenes with Hiro and his Mother.
So he is it.
Things have changed yet again.
vilandragirl
Dec 9 2008, 02:02 AM
So the question is, did anyone else know that she gave it to Hiro?
And when we finally see the sketchbook, will it be in there?
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 02:06 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! OKay I want to kill him myself now.
Aww Hiro!!!
vilandragirl
Dec 9 2008, 02:06 AM
Arthur has the catalyst!?
Lori R
Dec 9 2008, 02:07 AM
Well damn!
Poor Hiro. Stuck on a flag pole.
It's sad, but funny.
vilandragirl
Dec 9 2008, 02:08 AM
Ando is finally going to get powers!
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 02:09 AM
So is Arthur good or bad? I am sort of confused.
vilandragirl
Dec 9 2008, 02:09 AM
I say bad, but you just never know on this show.
Lori R
Dec 9 2008, 02:11 AM
I think Arthur is bad. Very bad.
He takes powers and kills.
Doesn't even respect his own family.
How can that be good?
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 02:13 AM
Haaaa Papa P can't do anything. Gosh this is good so far tonight...
vilandragirl
Dec 9 2008, 02:17 AM
Arthur's got Peter monologuing. Didn't he see the Incredibles? You never let them get you monologuing!

Didn't Papa P have the ability to self heal, like Peter?
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 02:17 AM
Crap, they are all going to be like Sylar.
Well not if you are shot in the head...remember that is the one place that cannot heal.
vilandragirl
Dec 9 2008, 02:19 AM
Ooh, we have a strongman. That's new.
Can't wait until next week.
QUOTE(WildB @ Dec 8 2008, 10:17 PM)

Crap, they are all going to be like Sylar.
You mean as far as being bad?
Lori R
Dec 9 2008, 02:21 AM
What was the 'light' that came out of Arthur when he was dead on the floor?
Why didn't Peter see it?
A new evil person to keep up with

Glad Arthur is dead, and I'm glad that Sylar told Peter he wasn't the one to do it, then did it for him.
vilandragirl
Dec 9 2008, 02:23 AM
Ok, I really thought Peter had been shot in the head before.
And we finally find out how he got his scar on his face.
I think the light was the catalyst, so I wonder if Peter has it now, or if it disappeared.
I also really liked that Sylar said that. He understands Peter. And I don't think he's all bad, he's just complex.
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 02:26 AM
Well Peter did get shot in the head, but Claire removed the bullet from his head and he healed. So if someone was to remove the bullet from Arthur's head he might heal. But then again the Catalyst left him so maybe so did all his abilities.
I miss Peter having powers.
Lori R
Dec 9 2008, 02:26 AM
Peter had the big chunk of glass in his head before.
Or I thought it was glass. It was a bullet?

I don't think the light went into Peter.
It just seemed to disappear.
Where did Arthur send Claire?
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 02:32 AM
You are right, Lori. I was glass in Peter's head.
Yeah where did he send Claire?
vilandragirl
Dec 9 2008, 02:32 AM
Oh, yeah, you're right about Claire taking the bullet out. I need to watch my old episodes again.
I also miss Peter having powers, but I'm thinking he will get them back soon.
WildB
Dec 9 2008, 02:39 AM
Yeah he has been overall underused in this Villians story. I want my old Peter back soon.
I'm so glad I am home again at this time so I can take part in the chatting along when the show airs. It is fun.
entilzha
Dec 9 2008, 11:55 PM
After the disappointments of the two-part “eclipse”, my expectations for this episode were fairly low. So I was a bit surprised to find that most of this episode was quite enjoyable. It gave me some small hope that a tighter focus with a stronger sense of direction could restore the series to its former glory.
The episode focused on Hiro and Claire, so it’s probably no surprise that I liked those plot threads the most. In particular, I found them poignant, which is not something I can say about “Heroes” very often. Both situations required a bit of hand-waving and contrivance to work as intended, but after a while, you learn to accept such things (to a certain degree).
I know a lot of people have come to despise Claire, and to an extent it’s understandable, but I think the majority of the problem is the writing. Hayden wasn’t phoning anything in on this episode. Was it a little too convenient for Noah to listen to the babbling teenage girl with an unknown ability standing over the baby he was just ordered to protect at all costs? Probably. But I couldn’t help but smile when he said, “Claire-bear”, and realized what was happening.
Similarly, while it seems a bit odd that Hiro’s father wouldn’t notice the similarities between his son and the mysteriously befuddled “chef” that appeared out of nowhere, the scenes between Hiro and his mother were simply golden. I’d like the writers to bring this generational aspect of the show to an end, to be honest, but this worked. At least, it worked until Arthur came along out of nowhere and undercut Hiro’s heroic decision to take on responsibility for the catalyst.
So where the catalyst came from is completely vague, but it can be transferred and apparently works like “the glow” from “The Last Dragon”. Wonderful. But why give Hiro the first meaningful moment in the entire volume, only to snatch it out from under him? There’s a certain shock value to it all, but the plot necessities seem to be driving that moment.
After all, the writers needed the catalyst to be revealed so that Arthur could steal it, use it to activate the Not-Promicin (because it’s red, not green), power up the first batch of Super-Soldiers (beginning, ironically, with a former cast member of “The 4400”), thus setting the stage for a serious Sylar killing spree. After all, once Arthur is conveniently out of the way, Sylar is in the perfect position to force the soldiers to take the Not-Promicin and then steal the resulting abilities.
As usual, Sylar’s character motivations are all over the place, and now, his supposed hunger has turned him into a Dexter clone. Now it’s not about parental approval, or the hunger for power; it’s about the hunger to kill in the process. It’s suddenly a liking for violence. This may swing him back closer to the amoral characterization of the first two seasons, but it doesn’t ring true with the rest of the third volume at all.
At the very least, Sylar’s arrival should put an end to Arthur’s plan, regardless of Nathan’s intentions. Sylar might even wipe out Nathan and Tracy in the process of taking control of the facility. But I’m not sure whether or not this will end with Peter and Hiro’s powers restored. A lot is still up in the air, and the writers still need to bring all of this to a meaningful conclusion.
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