honeythief
Mar 5 2009, 01:52 PM
608: LAST WORDAir Date: Sunday 8th March 2009 at 9 pm ET/PT on Showtime
Writer: ?
Director: Ilene Chaiken
Guest Stars: Elizabeth Berkley, Kate French, Alexandra Hedison, Lucy Lawless
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Synopsis: In the final episode of the series, what starts out as a celebration of friendship quickly ends in a web of betrayal and deceit; the girls find themselves being investigated about Jenny's untimely death by Sergeant Duffy.
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ILUVLEISHA
Mar 9 2009, 01:17 AM
OK LET ME SAY THIS AND I HOPE I DON'T OFFEND BUT THAT EP WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STUPID AND I WASTED MY FREAKING TIME WATCHING IT. FOR THAT MATTER I REALLY CAN'T BELIEVE IC WOULD END THE SHOW LIKE THAT, I AM VERY PISSED AND I AM GLAD ITS OVER AND I DON'T HAVE TO WASTE ANYMORE OF MY TIME. TALK ABOUT A BIG TEASE WITH NO PAY OFF, GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ILUVLEISHA
Mar 9 2009, 01:47 AM
Sorry about above I guess I needed to vent.
DarknessDescends
Mar 9 2009, 01:53 AM
RIP The L Word
2004-2009
Not one episode too soon.
(yup, that's all)
ButterBoy
Mar 9 2009, 02:01 AM
I actually liked the hour long special more than the episode, especially since it was served with a big portion of Erin Daniels, and OMG Leisha's impression of IFC "Now the board will be... .... .... erased."
But seriously, what was with those people like Russell Simmons and that Bilbo Baggins looking chick that they brought in? Did anyone else just find themselves muting the TV while they were on?
Ummmm, yeh, the episode didn't really wrap anything up. And they hardly showed Jenny's death or the moments leading up to it, I found it to be a very immature and disconnected handling of the situation. There could have been so much emotion in that moment, and they just didn't take advantage of it.
And that Macy's commercial ending with all of them walking towards us like runway models while the credits rolled? HUH??? Hello, they're walking into a police station to be interrogated after the death of someone who was a friend, for the most part, and they're strutting their stuff? And Jenny even came back from the dead to be there with them. The whole thing was just stupid and out of place, to be blunt, like trying to put a cherry on top of a big pile of crap.
It had its moments though, when Alice was speculating on what Jamie and Tasha were doing after the fight at the Planet. Even though I'm a Talice fan, I thought it was pretty funny. And that scene where Dylan had that knife over Helena when they were making out on the counter, scared the crap out of me, but in a good way because I thought she really was going to blackmail her again for a moment.
Overall, not a satisfying series finale. But I didn't have my expectations up that high.
SeeSee
Mar 9 2009, 02:40 AM
Just BAD
paperWings
Mar 9 2009, 03:42 AM
Worst series finale I've ever seen in my life. I hate to be like that but it's true.
R.I.P L Word
Kryssi
Mar 9 2009, 04:08 AM
Anyone else feel an overwhelming urge to vomit and delete their entire existence from the L Word fandom...or is that just me???
Meems
Mar 9 2009, 04:14 AM
That was a horrible way to end the series.
Kryssi
Mar 9 2009, 04:34 AM
"End"?! My mind is plagued with frustrating, unresolved feelings that will NEVER get closure. This is just going to drive me batsh!t. I want to sue Ilene Chaiken for emotional distress! It's like she went out of her way to make sure every L fan and shipper was deliberately left unsatisfied. WTF
navygirl
Mar 9 2009, 05:28 AM
I had to stop by to mark this occassion with a few comments. The finale wasn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. But it does definitely leave the end open to interpretation, and as expected unresolved. A bit like life, eh? Did Ilene Chaiken take a page from a David Lynch script for this unresolved ending? Cryptic, yes. But thankfully, not as weird.
I, too, enjoyed the hour long special before the episode. Although I probably could have done without the lesbian history lesson. But I suppose they added that to put The L Word into context within lesbian history. But while watching the special I couldn't help but think that this was exactly what was missing from all of the DVD sets over the past several years: actor interviews, behind the scenes clips, deleted scenes, etc. I hope that they include this special on the final DVD set, along with more. Showtime owes us big time!
Out of respect for my friends overseas who have most likely not seen the episode yet:
****BEWARE!!! SPOILER ALERT!*****
It was nice to see some old faces, but they were all too brief. The finale itself deserved to be a 2-hour episode. Although I have to admit that I'm not sure that it would have made a difference, given the outcome. As for who killed Jenny Schecter? Well, take your pick. They all had motive and opportunity. All except for Alice. Here's my take on the suspects:
1. ALICE. Of all the characters in the final episode, Alice was the only one who finally decided to bury the hatchet with Jenny. When she finally comes to this decision, boom! Jenny turns up dead. The only weird thing is Alice's flub to the police about someone killing Jenny. By making that assumption, she inadvertently put herself in the hot seat. Oops!
2. TINA. Tina finally finds out at her farewell party that Jenny is the one who stole the film for Lez Girls. But Tina kept looking for Jenny during the final moments of the show. One of the few clues to her involvement was her statement upon finding out about the film. In anger Tina says, "I should just put her out of her own misery." But almost immediately after that we see her with Bette looking for Jenny. The only clue that she might have done something came in a scene that suggested that she may have been outside with Jenny in her final moments. This clue was so subtle, we might not have noticed it if it were not for the fact that Tina mentioned that she was also cold just after Max did. Max appeared to have come from outside where they were all having drinks just a while ago. So this could put Tina in a bit of trouble, too, but only if it comes up in an interrogation.
3. BETTE. Of all the characters, Bette seemed to be the most willing to do whatever she had to do to protect her family and what she has re-built with Tina. Jenny's information, however inaccurate, could still do a lot of damage to Bette and Tina. Bette knows Tina would leave her if Tina had any doubts about her fidelity. Bette made a very convincing threat to Jenny just moments before everyone began to wonder about Jenny's whereabouts. Jenny's "proof" of infidelity is ample motive for the police to take a closer look at Bette as a suspect. Coupled with the fact that Bette said nothing bad about Jenny in her interrogation, except call her a complex person, it could lead to a very telling revelation to the police when they finally find Jenny's video of Bette and Kelly on Jenny's iPhone. How will Bette explain away this evidence and a strong motive for murder to the police once they are aware of all of the facts? This could be very serious trouble for Bette in the end.
4. SHANE. Out of everyone at that party, Shane might have finally gone off the deep end and killed Jenny in a rage over the information that came out at the party. Like the fact that Shane finally realized that Jenny lied to her and kept information from her about Molly, including that love letter. Oh, the what ifs that must have been going through Shane's mind at that point. On top of it all, Shane discovers the film to Lez Girls in the attic along with the jacket and Molly's love letter. Shane kept it all in check on the outside, but you could see the betrayal she felt. The two most ominous parts that could make Shane a suspect in the eyes of the audience is (a) when she was sitting on some steps with Alice. After Alice announces her intention to call a truce with Jenny, Shane's response "it's over" can be interpreted in more ways than one. While it could mean that Shane no longer feels obligated to Jenny, it could also mean that the deed of killing Jenny had already been done, and that any hold Jenny had on Shane was completely and utterly over. (b) The other scene that may lend some weight to that theory is when Shane tries to quiet Nikki when she's trying to explain her presence at Bette & Tina's house by telling everyone, including the police, that she was there to confront Jenny about how she shouldn't keep Shane caged in a box. Shane immediately tells Nikki to shut up. The expression on the lead detective's face looked as if she found the reaction very interesting, indeed.
5. NIKKI. While Nikki is completely inept and immature, as a spoiled actress who is used to getting her way and being the center of attention she had a clear motive to get rid of Jenny. Nikki had been completely manipulated by Jenny not only on the film set of Lez Girls, but also after their breakup. The latest and most humiliating event being the auction of a date with Nikki Stevens for charity. Jenny's very public humiliation of Nikki would have put Nikki into a rage, much in the same way that Nikki reacted to Jenny dumping her right after their sexual romp in which Jenny in not so many words tells Nikki that she doesn't love her at all. The humiliation of that auction could have been the final straw that broke the camel's back for Nikki. But besides that, what the hell was Nikki doing hiding in the bushes by the pool where Jenny's dead, drowned body was found?!!! (That is, if she actually drowned. We simply don't know the cause of Jenny's death.) Out of all of the girls, not only did Nikki have motive, she seems to have had the best opportunity as well. No one was even aware that Nikki was there! So why was she hiding? I guess we'll never know. Nikki was also the only character to ask for a lawyer. While most real folks would do the same, in TV land that's almost always a very telling indication of a guilty conscience. Whether that's guilt of a murder, or simply the guilty innocence of someone being in the wrong place at the wrong time still remains to be seen.
6. HELENA. While Helena seemed furious at Jenny for ruining her one chance at true love with Dylan, Helena seemed to drown her sorrows in a bottle rather than seek an opportunity to commit murder. My disappointment with that scenario is that the bitchy Helena from Season 2 would have totally killed Jenny. Or more accurately, have Jenny disappeared by a couple of well-paid Peabody henchmen. But this watered-down version of Helena seems more defeated than ever by her love losses. Helena is obviously turning into a drunk, and she would probably die of cirrhosis if the show had gone on for another 5 years. Her death somehow a tribute to Dana in Ilene's twisted mind perhaps? Too bad. Helena was the one character with the most potential in my eyes. She simply got beat up by the writing staff and Irene Chicken. Then again, I confess that I do have an all-too-obvious bias for the actress and the Helena character in general. I hope Rachel Shelley's characters fare a better fate in her other projects.
7. KIT. Kit would never hurt a fly. She has always been the mother figure for all of the girls. And even when she thought that Jenny was interfering with Bette and Tina, after Jenny showed Kit her "evidence" of Bette's betrayal of Tina, Kit seemed confused by the entire situation. But she didn't look like someone capable of murder.
8. TASHA. Tasha may be a soldier who has witnessed and probably committed murder for her country, but I get the sense that she is the type of person who has to commit to an act like that only in extreme situations. From Tasha's point of view, it genuinely seemed that there was nothing that extreme or threatening in her life. Tasha simply had no real beef with Jenny. A minor inconvenience perhaps, but nothing worth a murder.
9. MAX. Max is another person, like Kit, who simply doesn't seem capable of murder. He's been nothing but nice to everyone in his life. Even the steroids and testosterone couldn't penetrate this genuinely pleasant person. Oh, perhaps on one or two occassions, yes. But who could really count that against Max as a person? And even in Max's most hormonal state as a pregnant man, is he really capable of murder? When it comes to Jenny Schecter, I think just about anyone is capable of murder. But Max? No way. In any case, there simply was no longer any motive for him to do the deed.
10. SOUNDER. Sounder kept wimpering and looking into the pool. Could sounder have pushed an unsuspecting Jenny into the pool? Could he have knocked Jenny unconscious with a doggy bone as revenge for dressing him in those ridiculous outfits? I can't say that I'd blame him.
11. JENNY. The one final theory out there is that Jenny may have committed suicide. The finale does leave an inkling that this could have happened by leaving Jenny's death unsolved. But to be honest, while Jenny may have been feeling sorry for herself, I hardly find her capable of suicide. Even her cutting was a cry for attention, and not a real attempt at killing herself. But suicide? Not Jenny. She has an over inflated value of herself. And I simply couldn't see someone that egotistical offing herself. Instead she would simply move on to the next colony and begin her annihilation anew. Good riddance, Schecter!
In the final analysis, the best suspects in my eyes are Nikki, Shane and Bette, and not necessarily in any particular order of evidential importance. Tina may have been another good candidate, except for the fact that she has always had a good head on her shoulders and keeps her cool in impossible situations. So Tina is only a good candidate due to the circumstances, but not by her own nature. The one thing that the writers did do is make it clear that Alice had finally let go of her ill feelings for Jenny, if only to salvage her friendship with Shane. And in the end, the writers did everything in their power to make sure all of us knew that Alice is probably the only character who could be innocent. Which makes perfect sense, considering that the pilot for her new series has her in jail for Jenny's murder.
The only other thing to consider is the conspicuous absence of one character in those final scenes:
12. DYLAN. Dylan suffered a huge loss of her first love at the hands of Jenny Schecter. One small issue kept from Helena, a secret shared with Jenny, was finally the undoing of the Helena-Dylan love affair. Dylan was utterly crushed by the outcome. She was so close to having a life of love with Helena, only to be blown to bits by the lie that Dylan shared with Jenny. In the end, everyone was at that party, even Nikki, except for one person: Dylan. Could this mean that she did the deed and split town? I would have expected Dylan to try to win back Helena's love one last time. But nothing. Was Dylan so overcome with loss and rage that she pulled an O.J. right under everyone's noses? Is her obvious absence from the final party itself an indication of a hidden/fleeing murderer?
And then there's that darn....
13. BALCONY & RAILING. The writers even went so far as to create ample evidence that Jenny's death may have even been an innocent accident, since many of the characters kept mentioning the unfinished construction on the second floor of Bette and Tina's house. It was obvious that the outside balcony was unfinished. But everyone talked about a loose railing. Only they all failed to warn Jenny of the danger. Could Jenny's death have been as simple as an accident waiting to happen?
We will probably never know the answer to any of these questions...
Unless they come out with a movie centered around solving the secrets to Jenny's death. For even in death, Ilene Chaiken will make Jenny the central storyline. Yikes!
(Don't worry. It'll never happen. Ilene pissed off too many fans.)
Farewell L Word. Despite the tons of twists and turns, good or bad, I will miss you.
navygirl
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adultblues
Mar 9 2009, 11:41 AM
wow, navygirl, thank you for posting
really helped me to understand tlw608
and yes, jenny had to die, that's the only good thing about the ending
pink
Mar 9 2009, 03:35 PM
Knew it was going to end like this
Despised the idea all together
I can agree and understand why everyone is utterly dissappointed
It's not a good way to end a show at all
Just my opinion and I am sure the Ladies are glad to be out!
quicksilver
Mar 9 2009, 03:44 PM
did anyone realize that jenny was the only one who wasnt told about the loose railing? after her conversation with bette, she could have fallen off the balcony. all the way through they mention the broken railing....
Freakme
Mar 9 2009, 04:02 PM
Totally bullshit! I hate u IC more than ever.
Brownie21
Mar 9 2009, 05:26 PM
No one killed Jenny, she killed herself. My thinking is that she might have seen that Shane found the jacket and the letter and that Tina knows she took the negative. She said to Kit that she knows that her friends wish she would shut the F up and go away. She killed herself, no one did it. Shane telling Nikki to shut up was her telling her not to say anything (because Shane thought she might have done it) anything that might incriminate herself.
sadie
Mar 9 2009, 06:51 PM
I also was very disappointed with the ending but not surprised. We can say IC for all the seasons of TLW has left hugh gaps and holes. So this was not surprising. I believe IC could have devoted more time to the ending. I got the feeling they just wanted it to end and that was it.
However, it does leave it open for a Showtime Movie in the future if IC can get the troop back together to tie up the lose ends. Should be interesting to see what SHowtime and IC will do.
As for Jenny, I think she was just caught up in her own web that she created through out the last 6 seasons. Lets face it we knew she was looney tunes from the get go. IMHO
I did not like the way Helena and Dylan ended. There was still the look of love there. It was shame that Helena over heard Jenny tellin Dylan to come clean. I just think it broke Helena heart again. But it does not mean Helena would have killed Jenny off. It would not be Helenas make up to do so, she was just to broken hearted there.
As for Tina trying to knock off Jenny, that is not the likely either. She may have been furious with Jenny but she does not have the gumption to do so she has other issues to contend with.
However, I do believe Bette could have done it. Jenny could have overheard Kit giving Bette an earful and when Kit walked out Jenny appears. Bette could have got in her space and Jenny backing away could have fallen off the lose railing. I do believe everyone did her the splash, and with Nicki hearing it hid in the bushes not really realizing what the hell happened. I believe they all knew who did it, and are keeping it quite due to their friendship and it was an accident.
I just sad the way it finished, got the impression they had 8 eps to do it in and not enough time or concern on how they finished it.
justmem
Mar 9 2009, 08:52 PM
Thank god it's over. We've all been put out of our misery.
Now only if I could get my 6 years back...
ETA: here's to hoping the spin off doesn't get picked up. Leisha deserves so much better.
Olivia74
Mar 9 2009, 08:59 PM
watchin the documentary that preceded the final episode made me realise what a dreadful shame it is to let once was such a fab show end like this.
If IC has done it thinking it will want us to demand a movie she has gone about it totally the wrong way!
I feel bad for all the actors, they did the best with what they had, but really.....IC and co. cant have much respect for their cast to give them this crap as a swansong
paperWings
Mar 9 2009, 10:02 PM
After all of my loyality to the show, I feel so betrayed. There were numerous unanswered questions, not to mention every storyline was left wide open. I feel as if this whole season was a pointless creation just meant to mess with our emotionally attached minds. I am so unsettled. Ilene, you are a monster.
lwordjunkie
Mar 10 2009, 04:17 AM
Atrocious.
What Ilene giveth, Ilene taketh away in the ugliest of ways. The bright side? No more Ilene!
Oh yeah, I won't bet the farm on "The Farm" getting picked up. If it is picked up, I am running away from it.
kelstar
Mar 10 2009, 04:51 AM
That was the worst season of The L Word and IC should be ashamed of herself!
The whole premise - 'Who killed Jenny Schechter?' then we don't even find out the who, the why or the how? What a joke!
I'm sure there are many other fans out there who invested a huge amount of time into what was once a great show, only to slapped in the face by terrible storylines and a bullshit ending!
Atleast Queer as Folk had a wonderful ending - this was pitiful! No wonder even the actors are talking **** about it!
The only thing I liked about the last ever episode was the Shane storyline - you could just see all of the emotion under the surface, Kate was brilliant and I'll miss watching her
Kryssi
Mar 10 2009, 04:56 AM
My mom, for some reason, loved the ending. She thinks we're not giving IC enough credit for such a "unique" ending to the series. LOL Something about how the entire cast walking toward the screen like glam queens - Jenny included - in addition to the "Thanks for six great seasons!" tagline...she said it was their way of saying "It's JUST a show. It's over. The stories are not over because in real life, everyone's story continues. But the show IS over. So get over it." Something like that.
LoveDylena
Mar 10 2009, 05:18 PM
QUOTE(lwordjunkie @ Mar 9 2009, 11:17 PM)

Atrocious.
What Ilene giveth, Ilene taketh away in the ugliest of ways. The bright side? No more Ilene!
Oh yeah, I won't bet the farm on "The Farm" getting picked up. If it is picked up, I am running away from it.
I'll be running right behind ya!
F20
Mar 10 2009, 06:51 PM
I would only say: "This used to be a FUNHOUSE......."
adultblues
Mar 11 2009, 01:42 PM
QUOTE(Freakme @ Mar 9 2009, 04:02 PM)

Totally bullshit! I hate u IC more than ever.
yes, totally agree
IC & Co = very lame
after what the actors put in - tha'ts the best IC & Co can do for them?
the last shot was really BS, i mean, they are all walking to the police station right? & they looked like they were on the runway
so, IC is saying that TLW started with Jenny, and now, it ends with Jenny
whatever
every other respectable shows/drama had fairly decent endings, TLW season 6 just don't measure up, to me, it ended in season 5
Lunachick
Mar 12 2009, 10:15 AM
Hey everyone, i don't think I ever posted here, or if i did i forgot about it, but now i have thoughts about the ending and so on that i wish to share with others.
First of all, how unbearably sad it is to see them go and on the other hand to see them go this way...
I have to start with that I always loved Jenny or more like Mia Kirshner, who is in my eyes one of the most beautiful woman on earth i just can't stop drooling all over her, but even i got tired of the character by the end and at some points i wasn't sure if it was fiction or nonfiction. I didn't really understand the concept of the Jenny- Dylan- Helena trio-argument at the end, it was too constrained. No point. I mean the trust issue is a very good line, but not told like this. So tearing apart these beauties is one big minus! We all waited years to see them together again, but if i think of it we all have trust issues and probably none of us would have gotten over something like what they've been through.
Bette and Tina i think i liked that ending, knowing they are stronger then ever, with a possible fresh start in their way, so that was okay, and i think season 6 was good to show how funny and cute they can be together loved the Weezie laugh imitation by Bette scene and so on. So let's give a plus for Ilene for that.
Alice and Tasha. I never really liked them together, but season 6 somehow changed that for me. I think they were cute and I kinda found realistic elements in it even if the execution was as always TV friendly and TV fitted. The pros and cons part was cute too and how Alice handled the whole lovetriangle thing was very touching, so one plus for that too, eventhough i question the future and there must be questions in all of us what happened while Tasha didn't call. hi-hi

Shane. Well i am one of those who can't really find anything likeable in this character, but i always enjoyed Kate's acting skills, genial! I hope she killed Jenny if anyone did (and if i don't think of the farm conception). I hope she will call Molly, tho i'm sure she won't cause she's just a character, but Kate could and should call up Miss Ford
Niki...don't even know how an actress like her got a role in The L Word. Very disturbing especially in the scenes when she acted like she was very pissed of and angry about what Jenny did...hurt, really did! Minus 10 points for casting her

Max...never really cared for this line, eventhough i felt it was needed and important, just the lack of real acting skills on the side of Daniela kinda oblirated my excitement and left agitation

But when he was left alone with this whole situation i really felt bad for him. It was nice to see him in a hopeful place by the end, i just wish his boyfriend would have taken away his mustache too.
Kit...i just adore that woman! Pam - Kit whoever, they are the best! Love them!

I wish the whole Sunset - Kit relationship would have gotten more attention, i mean episode 7 Kit is hurt pours a glass of whatever in his face episode 8 they are happily together, i mean i can imagine what happened in between. Just would have liked to see it!
Jenny i was in love with her character for years then i just ended up loving Mia, what a fabulous actress...
How lucky were we to see Leisha Hailey at her best, Mia Kirshner at her best, Jennifer Beals at her best and Kate Moennig together in one show for 6 seasons. I do feel favored for that!
About the finale...I felt like the whole farewell thing wasn't really about saying goodbye to Tina and Bette but little hidden messages to us the fans, from them. That we are in their hearts and they will be around. Espeacially when Jodie sad what she did...out of line totally. So i don't look at this as a finale i look at this as a step in our relationship, otherwise it was an awful finale, but if it's not the end of the whole just a small part, then i am relieved

I mean they smiled in the end, they must know something and there was no real intro but the end was the intro...
blah blah blah
tlwfan
Mar 13 2009, 04:33 AM
It was very well said and I'm happy to read your opinion at least here.
I completely agree that the last episode was not really the last one, not speaking even about the Interrogation Tapes which follow.
The Finale Special made it easier for me to say some kind of goodbye to our favourite show.
I have to tell that no other shows could become the part of my life such a great extent than our TLW.
Sollo
Mar 13 2009, 09:30 PM
i would say : thank you for great first 3 seasons...
for me this was total nonsense....i mean the last 3 seasons nd the last few episodes...
all started as dreamed LA full of beautiful lesbians ...with fantastic jobs nd nice friendly evenings together...ended with half of them not having job and having mental problems...Shane is lost after sleeping with 586743769 girls she was fine,but after Jen she is ****ed up....Max is Max...still dont get it how a pregnant woman can have facial hair...arent the hormones doing smtg to ur body....or only boobs are growing??? Alice is far from funny nd bubbly...Jen..i still believe the show would be better if they ''killed'' her instead of Dana...all this mental nonsense wouldnt be written...
nd I dont get it how this beautiful serial became all about Jenny movie???
disapointed....very very much !!!
in the documentary they were talking about lesbians with purses, with sense for fashion and so on....but slowly they started being influenced by the : here are no lesbians like that....nd from the point they started showing some "real" lesbians the show got boring.....
the show was huge because of how hot was Bette....how sweet sexy was Alice...how confident was Shane,,how innocent was Jenny....how beautiful was MArina....how curious was Dana.....how damn powerful was Helena...and all this stuff.....we do NOT want reality show....we want dream show...
TamiZ
Mar 14 2009, 06:05 PM
I just wanted to post regarding the last season (and pardon me for the length and possible spoilage, but I do talk a lot and it's been a week since the show has aired in America. Be warned).
I'm not sure where the plotlines were going, but the characters seemed to have been warped high speed to where they needed to be to fulfill the needs of the plotlines. Wrong to do, in my opinion. Plots should fit the established characters, not the other way around.
I am a huge fan of the Jenny character. I did think, though, that she became a caricature from season four on, doubly so in season six. She did have a few perfect moments (her fun/goodbye f*** with Nikki - showed how she could be aggressive and take her power when she was hurt, and her buying of same said starlet, who actually blushed in the spotlight for once in her use-the-camera-with-everything-she's-got, kind of life, for the woman she loved. And I do think she loved Shane. There was always that vibe between the two of them, that energy. I just don't think Jenny ever learned to constructively handle her pain other than writing. That was her problem. As Shane said, she was fragile and I don't think she ever learned how to handle being broken.
And of her writing, I actually applauded when Shane went up into the attic and I saw the "Some of Her Parts" poster and the "Lez Girls" reels. Those were her works and she took ownership of them. The producers, big wigs, whatever...they stole and mutated her idea. She took it back. Now that Jenny is dead, Nikki is publicly humiliated, and Adele is (where is she??)...I wonder if that film will find the screen and become infamous.
Other thoughts -
Shane - What did you think would happen? You don't remember why you don't do sleepovers? You knew Jenny. You knew what she could do. It surprises you that she might go left and right on the relationship with you? And do you really think Molly was so in love with you? She had a new girl she was ga-ga over that fast. And you fall in love and then fall out a week later. If you grow melancholy over that, it explains that morose hair style that never changed. (I really have never liked Shane's hair). Accept who you are once more and do not bemoan the choices you make, that you have always made and never had to make apologies for before.
Bette/Tina - Adopt Max's baby for crying out loud. Go to New York, let Tina be the power for a while. Let Bette immerse herself in the art world for fun and not work. Let them both teach their children about the down time of life and not just the work side.
Alice/Tasha/Jamie - I still think that a sense of duty is the wrong glue to use when holding a relationship together. Tasha had an honest attraction both physically and mentally to Jamie. It was nice that she and Alice worked hard on making their relationship work, but you just never realized how they did not connect until you saw how Tasha could connect with someone she actually does share interests with. I like Alice, I do. She's cute, and fun, and always there for you as a friend that has your back. But she needs someone on the same age and life-goals-level as she is.
Max - Is it possible to become pregnant while on testosterone treatments? I don't know. That's not my field of expertise, but I've heard it is not. But that storyline was not the first time TPTB used media headlines to come up with an idea to play with. This was just one of the less plausible ones. I like Max. Wish the voice was a little bit different, but Daniela has the most beautiful eyes. I probably wouldn't hear much of what Max was saying if I was busy looking into those eyes. Whether Max keeps the baby or not is not an issue, but he was a good babysitter with Shay. I think he would be a good father and one under a lot less stress once the baby bump goes away. Easier than having to go through that explanation of still having those female parts you were born with (an unfortunate circumstance for that male soul you are). Kind of an odd gender thought - what if men really did give birth? Women has always asked that. I wonder if Lisa (the lesbian identified male sort) had ever wanted to give birth?
And finally, after so much mumbling and bumbling over proper comma use...
The ending - the glam walk down the catwalk - that is what in the world of theater (not my expertise, mind you), is called the final bow. I know I've seen a couple of posts also saying this, but still even more livid over the thing. Once the ladies got out of their cars to go to the station, that was the end of the official show. Caput. Done. Curtains closed. Then when the smiles lit up the screen and our actresses were waltzing into the breeze, that was a curtain call. That was not the character Jenny (she's dead), that was the actress Mia Kirshner that played the role of Jenny. And she was the last one out because as Ilene has said from the beginning, she was the "star" of the show. The star is always the last one to take a bow.
And Jenny was the star. She was the child seeing this world for the first time. She was the innocent Dorothy from Kansas that landed in L.A. One of the first things she saw was Shane getting her freak on in Bette and Tina's pool with some other chick. Maybe this whole show was just the world through Jenny's eyes. Don't know. I wasn't at the writers' table. Shame for that. I think I would have had fun with it all.
Now I'm going to enjoy the interrogation tapes. Interesting character studies to fill in gaps through five seasons and not just the last. Oh, and lots of Lucy Lawless

~~~ Makes me want to trade my chakram in for a detective's shield. And who knows...maybe these tapes will make all of it make some sort of twisted sense. Maybe that tornado of a sixth season will finally settle into some semblance of sense. A sixth season, btw, that I did enjoy despite its irrational steps. I have called this my show for six years and it will be as long as I have a memory.
Remember the good things, accept inevitable mediocrity, do not dwell on the bad. It leads to cynicism and a miserable life. I kind of enjoy the even keel.
Mofole
Mar 15 2009, 09:04 AM
So it's over and I will confess I'll miss it. ^ years of having something to look forward to on TV. It will be a tough act to follow no matter how we feel about the ending
aka-xxx
Mar 16 2009, 03:56 PM
Hmm, I have not watched the last ever episode. I wanna watch it with my GF. Though after reading what I have, I'm kinda scared to watch it
pink:

Good to see you
jodic
Mar 18 2009, 07:07 PM
QUOTE
My mom, for some reason, loved the ending. She thinks we're not giving IC enough credit for such a "unique" ending to the series. LOL Something about how the entire cast walking toward the screen like glam queens - Jenny included - in addition to the "Thanks for six great seasons!" tagline...she said it was their way of saying "It's JUST a show. It's over. The stories are not over because in real life, everyone's story continues. But the show IS over. So get over it." Something like that.
I agree with your mom... and I agree with some of the other views. But what I think most of you forget is that this is her show... we were just allowed to come along for the ride. A ride I enjoyed very much, I might add. And as loved or hated Jenny was, the fact remains that she was the star of the show, it was always centered around her. I love all the actresses, including Daniella. The season was somewhat rushed, but all in all I enjoyed it. I'm sad that it has ended, but on the other hand I am happy to have been a part of it, and will always thank Ilene for bringing these amazing women into my life...
adultblues
Mar 24 2009, 01:49 PM
for whatever it is worth, i really appreciate TIBETTE
and for them, i'm going to get TLW Season 6 DVD once it is out
i miss them
honeythief
Mar 24 2009, 04:47 PM
QUOTE(DarknessDescends @ Mar 9 2009, 01:53 AM)

RIP The L Word
2004-2009
Not one episode too soon.
More like thirty episodes too late.

QUOTE(ButterBoy @ Mar 9 2009, 02:01 AM)

I actually liked the hour long special more than the episode, especially since it was served with a big portion of Erin Daniels, and OMG Leisha's impression of IFC "Now the board will be... .... .... erased."
"Big portion of Erin Daniels"? *ears prick up* By the sounds of it, the special farewell show was a damn sight more entertaining than the finale itself. *heads off to try to find a copy online*
QUOTE(navygirl @ Mar 9 2009, 05:28 AM)

I had to stop by to mark this occassion with a few comments.
Good to see you,
navy.

QUOTE(navygirl @ Mar 9 2009, 05:28 AM)

Did Ilene Chaiken take a page from a David Lynch script for this unresolved ending?
Given how craptastic the whole of S6 was, I'd suggest that if IC has been
plagiarising paying homage to any Lynch, it's more likely to be Jennifer than David. (Side note: If anyone's considering seeing 'Surveillance': Don't! 'Boxing Helena' wasn't an aberration, all her films are dire.)
QUOTE(navygirl @ Mar 9 2009, 05:28 AM)

13. BALCONY & RAILING. <snip> Could Jenny's death have been as simple as an accident waiting to happen?
Probably, but the question that's vexing me more than who killed Jenny, is: How did Bette and Tina have an upper storey added to their bungalow in less time than it takes to pitch a tent in a high wind, and without the need to have new foundations laid? (You really know a show's lost your attention when you're thinking about building regulations and the possibility of structural collapse.

)
444tink
Mar 25 2009, 05:44 PM
I will be brutally honest, I am disgusted with the last episode of the last season of The L Word.
I just finished watching the episode and I am in shock. I knew IC was bad, but that bad? I don't even feel like being mean to her in this comment. Somewhere in between season 3 and 4, I completly gave up on her. You don't kill one of your main character. Even if it's for a very noble cause. Even if it's to set an example. You chose someone ELSE. You don't go from season to season, changing the entire personality of one character. How many Jennys have we seen in 6 years? Anyone? You don't just drop characters when you don't feel like developing them anymore. Papi? Papi, where are you?? Or maybe Adele?
You don't disrespect your audience. You don't go around ****ing everything up, just for the sake of having more drama (cuz we know IC loooooves the drama). You don't disrespect your audience, period. If you have a show, it's because of us. Someone plz get me the ratings for the last 3 pathetic seasons of this great show that used to be The L Word.
You proved your point Ilene. You really are the big boss. You really have all the powers. I'm very sorry, but if you have put everything and I mean EVERYTHING you have in that season finale... then you are a poor poor producer/writer/name it and we, listeners, fans and supporters, we were all foolish at the beggining for thinking you could make that show a good one, an example for other LGTB shows to come. Because yes, remember, you were the first one to make a show about lesbians. I for one believed you could handle such a responsibility. Now, 6 years have passed and I feel robbed of what could've been a turning point in television history.
Tonight, I saw Bette lie to the love of her life. I saw Shane reduced to a house wife. I saw Kit doubting her own sister, again. I saw Helena, drink in hand, back to square one. I saw Max pregnant, confused and all by herself. I saw Alice and Tasha getting back into a somewhat dead-end relationship.
But most of all, I saw Jenny die alone. And I admit, I was never a Jenny fan. I never liked how they just went from one Jenny to the other every season. This is not about cheering for my team. I loved her in season 4 and 5, I thought she was brilliant. I thought they'd finally found the right mix of madness and sweetness. But otherwise, I always kinda had mixed feelings. Yes, she was a real bitch in those few last episodes. She really was the devil. And we know she probably acted like that because she felt deeply unhappy and lost. And in a way, it makes sense that she would kill herself (because no, I don't buy into that Nikky bs). Everything she did and said, it all led up to that. In a way, she had to die. It was a logical ending, given the last season they gave her character. But screw the logic for a minute. I don't believe we must decide the end of a character's life only by the last 7 episodes or so. Yes, Jenny was definetly not doing very well at the end of season 5, but the way they solved Shane and Nikky's issue was just absurd. This particular event sent Jenny completly overboard (hence her relationship with Shane? most probably) and in season 6, we had to be prepared for some Jenny drama, yes. But running into Shane's arms... really? We never really saw the whole impact of Shane "cheating on Jenny" and God knows impact there was! I mean, it was understood that Jenny freaked out... but then what? Nothing.
That last season was just a whole lot of nothing. Why did they even make that 6th season anyway? Was this season a necessity? Was anything really settled in those 8 episodes? Wasn't it just more of the same? Do we have an ending? And I don't mean an ending that we necessarily LIKE, I'm talking about an ending, period. I guess IC wanted to keep it wide open so she could have her spin-off. But who cares now, really?
And that's the story. No matter how pretty they tried to make it look at the very end. Heck, they even had them all smiling! Really, what is there to smile about? When did we switch from "we are walking towards the police station, to sort out one of our bestfriend's death" to "we're all happy and walking hands in hands to infinity and beyond!" Nevermind the (very well timed) light wind that blew threw each of our character's hair. Nevermind the pretty city in the background. Nevermind the new and improved (not) theme. Nevermind the hands being held together. Each and everyone of them, they all end up alone. Except for Kit who finally found her man. At least they got that right! In no means do I believe myself to be a better writer, director, producer, wtv. I don't do that. So maybe I shouldn't critize one's work. But I can't help but feel completly and utterly disapointed. And I believe being a faithful viewer of the show, even when times got hard and I didn't agree one bit with IC's vision, I deserved better than that. We all did. For crying out loud, all those fabulous actors/actresses (alright, except maybe one or two), they deserved better too!
6 years my friends. 6 years to get here. Jenny's dead, thinking all her friends hate her and will never forgive her (yeah, the "let's make up" part was just too little too late. but I'm sure that was allll well calculated and meant to be). Shane's back on the market. Bette and Tina are off to NYC. Alice is living the dream 'til the next third wheel comes around. And Dana's up there, laughing her ass off. Happy they let her go after 3 seasons.
I am sorry if I offended anyone. It was not my intent. I just very much needed to get this off my chest. I'm beside myself. I hope you all understand.
Aggie1814
Apr 8 2009, 01:17 PM
I was broken hearted, Upset and totally let down by season 6. IC, what is the deal?
You couldn't like make a spinoff without Tina or Bette?
How about Shane getting back with Carmen? Alice and Tasha getting married?
I will say this, Kit finally having a good man was the best thing.
Besides Killing Jenny. YEAH I WAS SO HAPPY SHE DIED.
Taking this show off the air was a kick in the ass for us "GAY Fans"
I have been married for 14 years to a wonderful woman, and we have had almost all the issues you have shown on the show.. I do thank you for that.
But I'm still mad as Heck that it's off the air and with such a lame-duck final.
ghirlteam
Oct 1 2009, 11:33 AM
Well Lucy lawless was a plus point if nothing else
Wait till the L Word movie comes out