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lyric
Originally aired: Thursday April 2, 2009 on the CW.
Writer: Julie Siege
Director: Mike Rohl
Show Stars: Jared Padalecki (Sam Winchester), Jensen Ackles (Dean Winchester)
All Guest Stars: Rob Benedict (Carver Edlund), Katherine Boecher (Lilith)


Sam and Dean are shocked to discover a series of comic books titled "Supernatural" that accurately detail their lives as demon hunters.

They track down the writer, Carver Edlund, who explains he has visions of the brothers that he then turns into comic books.

Chuck reveals that Lilith is coming and she has a plan for Sam.



Source: The CW and TV.com.
lyric
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An episode with references... Supernatural writers Jeremy Carver and Ben Edlund. I wonder what else Julie Siege has for us.
Vinity
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Anyone here?

Sam/Dean lmao.gif
Vallygirl
Hi Vin wave.gif

I just came in so I need to rewind the dvr to get caught up.
Vinity
Hey girl wave.gif this is a great one grin.gif I wish PQ were here so I could give her a hard time about her tat grin.gif

M.E. Knight level douchiness lol.gif
Vinity
Gospel of Winchesters grin.gif
Vallygirl
Oh I didn't know that PQ had a tat, that's too funny.

Heh I have to admit the Sam & Dean slash gives me the willies so I love Dean's reaction.
Vinity
QUOTE(Vallygirl @ Apr 2 2009, 07:33 PM) *

Oh I didn't know that PQ had a tat, that's too funny.

Heh I have to admit the Sam & Dean slash gives me the willies so I love Dean's reaction.
I love the whole Fandon take lol.gif glad we can laugh at ourselves and yep, PQ got the tat BEFORE it ever showed on the show. She got it from previews, I think?
Vallygirl
Oh Chuck the Prophet...damn I wish we could have had an Eli Stone crossover. Heh we could have had a George Michael's dance numer and everything.

Seriously thought, I felt so bad for Chuck. Especially when he started to leave and said he was going to kill himself only to have Zechariah say they would just bring him back to life. Poor b*****d.

Again another amazing episode!!!
Vinity
Yeah, I'm not sure if they've had one bad ep this year.
entilzha
I have a feeling that quite a few fans will take the first half of this episode personally. The writers were definitely tossing out a few well-aimed shots at certain, shall we say, "overly enthusiastic" segments of the fandom. They weren't above poking fan at themselves, particularly some poorly received episodes and their eternal ratings struggle, but they were mainly taking shots at their more strident critics with just the right mixture of tolerant affection and scathing mockery. (The slash conversation, in particular, was classic: "They do know we're brothers, right?")

In the grand tradition of Whedon, this was the classic bait and switch. The first half of the episode felt like a gimmick, tossing out the meta relentlessly, and there was no sense of where it would go. If anything, I was content to sit back and see if the gimmick could last a full hour. The second half, however, took a decidedly darker and more meaningful turn.

I love the idea that Chuck was a prophet of the Lord, and that his barely-regarded "Supernatural" novels were eventually going to be hailed as "The Winchester Gospels". Considering how the covers and the prose took severe liberties with the brothers, even while describing events with fair accuracy, I suppose that's an indirect homage to those who question the motives of the biblical writers.

But this is also indicative of something that should be apparent by now: the Brothers Winchester are expected to win. One doesn't write a gospel about someone who fails to forestall the apocalypse, after all. There would be little need for gospels at that point, anyway! Prophecy appears to show that Lilith falls to a greater threat, and the Brothers Winchester are wrapped up in that.

After all, Zachariah has already mentioned that Dean is supposed to serve a specific function in events to come, and Sam is also wrapped up in it. Lilith wanted the Brothers Winchester dead for a specific reason. My suspicion, with so little time left, is that this encounter prompts Sam to accelerate his sessions with Ruby, so he can gain enough power to take down Lilith, and this in turn makes him the very threat that terrifies Lilith and leads to her demise.

This is corroborated by Chuck's final scene of the episode, where he receives a vision of something awful for the Brothers Winchester, something he desperately wants to warn them to avoid. Zachariah, however, makes it very clear that it cannot happen. This suggests that the angels aren't just there to shepherd Dean to his appointed destiny; they are also there to ensure that the outcome is as foretold.

Which is why I still believe that Sam will go dark side in the process of ending the threat of Lucifer's release. (Or perhaps Sam's conversion is itself one of the final seals.) Sam then takes on his destined role as the Antichrist Superstar, and begins to implement whatever it is that Azazel was trying to achieve (something from earlier in the season that hasn't been mentioned in a little while). At this point, it would be a bit of a cheat if the writers failed to pay off what they've been building towards since the second season.
lyric
On the Slash: I just read a review, and on the Slash issue it was said that [a very free translation] : "And this is how Supernatural fans get to be the first who mentally scarred their heros for forever." Source: tve.co.il.
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