As Nathan, Claire, Peter and H.R.G. help Angela uncover her past, she reveals the dark secrets that have haunted her for years. Meanwhile, Mohinder learns of his father's involvement in a long forgotten government operation.

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I think this will be a good ep.
Very revealing.

Will we finally find out what Angela is up to, or is this just another tease?

I hope we find out.
I want back story to find out how all of this happened.
I hope they really fill in some gaps tonight even if they throw us more things to ponder.

What is up with Claire's hair?
It's really bad.

Interesting blast from the past, having Charles Deveaux back.

Yes, not a fan of Claire's hair either. I think they're trying to make her look like she's worked hard through the night, but it really just looks like a wig.

Great casting with the young Linderman. But who's Bobby Bishop?

Agreed on the wig.

I have been trying to figure out Bobby Bishop too.

So Papa Surresh wasn't what his son thought.

And 'Alice' isn't really dead? Hmmm....

I really want to go back to Season 1 and rewatch the Suresh episodes. This doesn't feel consistent to me. But then maybe the rest of the episode won't go as we think.

Yes, it is hard to keep up with the ever changing story lines.
I can't really think what is consistent and what isn't.

I wish they would stop saying '50 years ago'.
I was born in '61 and I'm a few years away from 50

Okay, so Surresh started all of this.
But HOW did all of these people get their powers?
And how did he find out about them?
I really want to know

I wonder who 'Alice' is (playing her).
Will she be good or evil?
Did she really die and was brought back?
I have questions and want answers

Well hmmm. So, Alice could possibly be nuts from living out there all alone for 40 some odd years.
I wonder if she waited all that time for Angela or just didn't know how to leave or was afraid to leave.

The girl playing Alice is Laura Marano. Here's her IMDB page

UGH, damn home computer. I finally got here.

Storms coming anyway.

Claire hair is bad.

Alice is freaky.

Maybe she was waiting for revenge.

Hi Wild

Hey, Wild!

This is so sad that she waited all that time.

Mentally Alice is still a young teen.
And she believed her sister
Poor Alice.
Did 'she' accidently kill everyone?

That's why she stole the socks in the Pilot!

Where do you think she went?
I can see her being afraid to leave and being afraid to trust Angela after she found about the lie.
But it is so sad

OMG! I do not remember that!! You have a good memory.

Yeah she is a teen mentally.

I didn't even remember that.
She was arrested wasn't she?
Or taken to Nathan?
I can't really remember.

I couldn't remember what she stole until I saw this. Nathan was angry because she risked his campaign to steal something so cheap.

ETA: Yes, she was arrested and Nathan and Peter were called.

Lori, I wonder if she is still hiding somewhere on the property. I think you're right that she would be afraid to leave.

Aw, I was hoping Nathan or Peter would ask her to dance

I guess we knew there couldn't be an ep without Sylar
I'm really tired of him.
So now he's pretending to be Nathan.

Well I thought that ep good

Off to watch 'Castle'

OOOh Sylar is just pure badness. I am getting sick of him too, Lori.

Sylar as a senator... scaaary.

I think someone needs to put a spike deep in the back of that guy's head

OT...I love Nathan Fillion

I agree about Nathan Fillion. I was a little unsure about the first episode of Castle because he was so over the top, but he has seriously grown on me in that.

I've gotten used to the notion that "Heroes" will disappoint whenever they try to mine the past again. Too often, the existing continuity is changed or tweaked to allow for whatever story they want to tell. By now, it should be easy enough to move forward with the history that already exists.

So I was surprised to find that I actually liked this episode quite a bit, and I was willing to forgive whatever minor retcons were involved along the way. We got to see the beginning of Chandra Suresh's study into the emergence of metahumans, which eventually led to his method for identifying those with abilities. That tied into a nice bit of Mohinder's character arc, as revelations about his father drove him to seek redemption for his own mistakes. It doesn't repair the damage done during the third volume, but it certainly helps.

It also answered a question that I had back in the second season: what drove the Twelve to form the Company in the first place? We don't see the Twelve here, only a handful of them that had been at Coyote Sands. But it does explain where the genesis of the Company and its philosophy emerged. In fact, one can imagine that Adam Munroe came along, not long after their escape, and twisted their ideals even more.

I'm still torn on the overall importance of Angela's mission to find Alice. She seemed to be sure that they all had to be there for a reason, but it seemed a lot more personal. I suppose it was more a matter of proving to everyone why it was important for the family to stick together, which it accomplished, and showing them how they had to make up for their many manifest mistakes.

Considering that I've been waiting for the heroes to come together under some banner or another since the first season, this is a promising development. The forgiveness between Nathan and Peter might have been a bit too quick and easy, but with the story rapidly coming to a head, I wasn't surprised by that fact. (Maybe I'm just getting used to how the writers on "Heroes" tend to fast-forward through these matters.)

But for all those possible issues, I thought the overall presentation of the episode was top-notch, and the ending was the logical progression of the story. Sylar's decision to mimic Nathan has been a recurring theme, stretching back to the first season, and harkening back to that was a great idea. It's unlikely to play out as it did then, but it still works as an effective way to draw Nathan and rest of his clan out of the woodwork.

The resolution of this volume still feels like it could be a retread of the familiar: the same heroes banding against Sylar and whatever other villains happen to be working with or around him at the time. That only provides the writers with another opportunity for a proper throwdown against Sylar, something that still has yet to happen after the writers blew it in the first season finale.

This volume has had its shaky moments, and the addition of Bryan Fuller to the writing staff has not been the magical panacea that many had hoped it would be. But I do think that his arrival has been a good thing, and that the return to character-based storytelling is a great sign for the fourth season. For now, I just want this season to end on a strong run, and this episode feels like a part of that.

Funny you should say that as Syler got a knife at the back of his head in tonights eppy! :lamo: Yeah I thought tonights eppy was very boring, But interesting to find that Syler will most likely go mad. & try "several times" to kill himself. or at least that is what I'm thinking ( in future eppiosodes I mean).

Oh Yeah Castle is a awesome show & Nathan is so adorable in it eh. & ever so funny, I really don't care for that girl, But I just think his Mom is so funny, a bit "OMG" at times but still funny.